I'm moving to florida later tonight, so hopefully this doesn't just fall flat after today, but I'm reviving my old elevation temple because I think we had a good foundation.
Also this should probably be mentioned. To me a large issue with "vets" is stagnation, guys get more respect than their skill is worth. So, hopefully we can garner a site-wide shift in not only newcomers skill but vets as well by collectively elevating. Most new heads join instantly but vets should group up as well. Pretty sure its an open group, so here's the link:
http://www.letsbeef.com/forums/group.php?groupid=195