Industry vs LB

[Doer]

Just some thoughts of mine

I see the industry today as a total disappointment. The artist that did it big back then are now either broke or just enjoying life. Only notable artists I SEE putting in work right now is:

Big Sean
Kendrick
J.Cole
Drake
Fabolous
Ludacris

These days, people just find an mid/uptempo beat, rap about money, pussy, or weed, maybe change the pitch of there vocals, and it instantly becomes a hit. In fact, hits top 20 on the billboard 100 within 2 weeks. Guys like young thug and Rae sremmond are prime suspects. I personally thing they are ass as fuck. The fact that thug would try to name an album to continue the tradition of Tha Carter is shots fired out the ass. Disgraceful to guy like Wayne even though he's inconstant with his music these days but he's been a legend in the game for a long time now and for a newcomer like thug to do that is repulsive. My girl said thug is the greatest in the game right and I was that close to breaking up with her. The industry today is fucked in the ass because people no longer interested in messages in music. I'm finding better message in screamo then music then hip hop.

As for Letsbeef, I see various of track makers on lb that'll completely shit on people in the game today. Guys who already made a name for themselves like Punk, Grizz, AT, Erupt, m-rock, stot, six shots, rant, mic check, and freezy. Even the people that are starting to make a name for themselves as a track maker like lockhart, moni, subreal, super guy, mazing, shit even bnas would shit on people in the game today. The overall substance from the people I named above tracks is light years ahead when it comes to the new upcoming cats in the industry. It's just my personal opinion.

Agree? Disagree?

[NOBLE]

Originally Posted by Doer

My girl said thug is the greatest in the game right and I was that close to breaking up with her.

LOL! I feel you bro. I can hardly watch a Young Thug interview from start to finish let alone listen to his music. He's so fucking dumb. I'd definitely buy/listen to 90% of LB's artists music before Young Thug's.

[Obey]

There's a reason underground artist stay underground artist; no appeal. You got to have a certain kind of charisma, something that stands out about you that's different. Artist now a days are bringing a different genre of hip hop that focuses more around the beat. To us, lyricist friendly people, that blows. BUT to the kids now a days, it's the ideal music. Do you blame them for trying to make money? Rappers on here are more on the 90s flow, focusing on mostly lyrics and stuff that's been done before. It's all about adaption, and sadly that's why most of us would not make it today. The next genre that will make a return after ''Techno'' I think is the Old school Rock sound, Rock's been dead since the late 90s and it's about to make a return in my opinion. All trends come around eventually, and since hip hop developed after mostly all genres maybe we'll get a chance in the future.

Originally Posted by Obey

There's a reason underground artist stay underground artist; no appeal. You got to have a certain kind of charisma, something that stands out about you that's different. Artist now a days are bringing a different genre of hip hop that focuses more around the beat. To us, lyricist friendly people, that blows. BUT to the kids now a days, it's the ideal music. Do you blame them for trying to make money? Rappers on here are more on the 90s flow, focusing on mostly lyrics and stuff that's been done before. It's all about adaption, and sadly that's why most of us would not make it today. The next genre that will make a return after ''Techno'' I think is the Old school Rock sound, Rock's been dead since the late 90s and it's about to make a return in my opinion. All trends come around eventually, and since hip hop developed after mostly all genres maybe we'll get a chance in the future.

hahhhh!! This

PS:Young Thug has nothing to do with any hip hop discussion. I never understood why people would bring him up so much. lol

[Doer]

Not gonna lie I did use to listen to rock but yeah it pretty much is dead. He comes up in every discussion cuz every week this cat drops a track and its instantly becomes a hit. It's literally about nothing not to mention you can barely understand him with his pre-k ibonics. Bird man said him and rich homie quan reminds him of hot boys.. Another insulting comparison. I fucks with rich homie but they are no where near close to hot boys. In the future, there might be a chance. Then you have niggas in the game right now trying bite styles. For example, migos.. The most trashiest mediocre form of flowing i have ever heard in my life. I rather rap off beat then rap like migos does.

I feel like if some top tier owner of a music business got a hold of a lets beef mixtape, the profit that would made from it would be extraordinary. Lb would be put on the map no less then a month.

[Subreal]

A lot of it is just good production, which is basically the most important part. Its been known there is a lot of underground dudes that are more advanced lyrically.

[NOBLE]

As far as the people who make it onto the mainstream being those with "more charisma," I think "charisma" these days is often a product of marketing teams. If you look at many of the major artists, they are almost like a totally different person than when they were first discovered. For example, Rihanna took tons of language lessons to learn how to speak with an Amerian accent because she was told that her hefty Bajan accent isn't marketable. Niki Minaj's ass looks phatter than when she first started. I'm sure a lot of the guys get coaching as well on how to come off as authentic gangsta or portray "swag." They're told how to dress, how to speak and carry themselves (maybe even who to fuck and when to leak the sextape) in order to appeal to a particular niche which the marketers are aiming for. So "charisma" isn't so much something these artists have that the rest of us don't. What they have that many other artists lack is probably a combination of content that is perceived as marketable (gangsterism, sex and drugs as opposed to rapping about politics or something) and the willingness to work with label marketers and allow them to remake their image and dictate their movements for the purpose of making sales.

[Obey]

Originally Posted by NOBLE

As far as the people who make it onto the mainstream being those with "more charisma," I think "charisma" these days is often a product of marketing teams. If you look at many of the major artists, they are almost like a totally different person than when they were first discovered. For example, Rihanna took tons of language lessons to learn how to speak with an Amerian accent because she was told that her hefty Bajan accent isn't marketable. Niki Minaj's ass looks phatter than when she first started. I'm sure a lot of the guys get coaching as well on how to come off as authentic gangsta or portray "swag." They're told how to dress, how to speak and carry themselves (maybe even who to fuck and when to leak the sextape) in order to appeal to a particular niche which the marketers are aiming for. So "charisma" isn't so much something these artists have that the rest of us don't. What they have that many other artists lack is probably a combination of content that is perceived as marketable (gangsterism, sex and drugs as opposed to rapping about politics or something) and the willingness to work with label marketers and allow them to remake their image and dictate their movements for the purpose of making sales.

I have to agree and disagree with this. The 2 biggest rap artist that stuck around through the early 2000's up until now are the people that DIDN'T change: Eminem and Jay-Z. But I do agree that a lot of artist change their personalities, but most of them wind up being relevant for a few years than fading off. Eminem and Jay-Z brought a different sound that people liked, kind of like how Kanye did when when he first came in and how Drake, J.Cole, Kendrick, etc are doing it now.

[NOBLE]

I'm talking about people changing from when they were first discovered before they made it onto the mainstream. I don't know much about Eminem's history but Jay Z changed big time. Like Nas said, he "used to rap like the Fushnikens." I can post videos of Jay on an old tape with Jaz-O rapping on some Nuwaubian shit and this was before he became a 5-Percenter. His content changed to the whole mafioso "I'm a don" steeze around the same time he came out with Rockafella, which was obviously to reach mass appeal.