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View Poll Results: Should X-Calibur be banned?
Yes - It is wrong to create a double standard, by banning others but not him. 7 50.00%
No - He was unclear regarding the rules, and should be given a chance to amend his behavior. 7 50.00%
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It has been brought to my attention that, for his actions in IM'ing me to vote on his battle, he has been issued nothing but a warning. First and foremost, is it not true that he has received warnings in the past for his illegal actions concerning the site rules? To my knowledge, he has even been, in the past, banned for this very same offense. Why, then, now that he is staff, is he magically allotted sanction from the site rules? What is the point in having a governing system of rules at all, if they are not enforced for EVERYONE. Lockhart was banned for this very reason. As was Grizz. Why were they not granted the same amnesty for this behavior that X-Calibur was? Why, now, is there this inherent double standard concerning staff? He has clearly shown, not only a lack of understanding about the rules, but, a habitual behavior in breaking these very rules appointed to the site. Does this, mean, then, that I now am allowed to IM someone promoting my battle? No, of course not. So, why, then, should the behavior be deemed acceptable by another individual, simply because they are a member of the staff?

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It has been brought to my attention that, for his actions in IM'ing me to vote on his battle, he has been issued nothing but a warning. First and foremost, is it not true that he has received warnings in the past for his illegal actions concerning the site rules? To my knowledge, he has even been, in the past, banned for this very same offense. Why, then, now that he is staff, is he magically allotted sanction from the site rules? What is the point in having a governing system of rules at all, if they are not enforced for EVERYONE. Lockhart was banned for this very reason. As was Grizz. Why were they not granted the same amnesty for this behavior that X-Calibur was? Why, now, is there this inherent double standard concerning staff? He has clearly shown, not only a lack of understanding about the rules, but, a habitual behavior in breaking these very rules appointed to the site. Does this, mean, then, that I now am allowed to IM someone promoting my battle? No, of course not. So, why, then, should the behavior be deemed acceptable by another individual, simply because they are a member of the staff?

Anyway, poll added. Vote, or don't. I don't give a fuck.

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I legitimately care about the upholding of the rules on the site. I do my very best to abide by them, and I find it unfair that another member is allotted amnesty from these rules.

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I also strongly dislike double standards, which I'm sure also plays a partial role in this instance. Aside from that, I have no ulterior motive here.

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I legitimately care about the upholding of the rules on the site. I do my very best to abide by them, and I find it unfair that another member is allotted amnesty from these rules.

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I also strongly dislike double standards, which I'm sure also plays a partial role in this instance. Aside from that, I have no ulterior motive here.

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In all honesty I feel a warning was being a bit too nice...as a staff member of the site we should be held to a higher standard than that of regular users,also if a staff member is unclear of the rules after being on this site for 7 years.....I find that was a cop out rebuttal regardless I feel a ban would have been a worthy course of action.. no hate but a rule is a rule
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I find it unfair that another member is allotted amnesty from these rules.

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I agree. Maybe they are planning on changing the rule.

And I can see why you view it as a double standard. It's hard not to.

Do you not think that what a person offers to the site should play a role?

Within reason of course.

You got guy who does nothing but be a dick and constantly breaks the rules. He's no benefit to keep around and you KNOW he was being shady.

Then you got guy B who is a mod who is contributing and trying to improve the site and help out and made a stupid mistake (Do you think what he did was with malicious intent?)

I get what you're saying. But not everything is black and white

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In all honesty I feel a warning was being a bit too nice...as a staff member of the site we should be held to a higher standard than that of regular users,also if a staff member is unclear of the rules after being on this site for 7 years.....I find that was a cop out rebuttal regardless I feel a ban would have been a worthy course of action.. no hate but a rule is a rule
I agree. But I'd be very surprised if he did it again. Plus this will give him an extra kick up the ass to get into gear.

I'm sure if he does it again. He will be done. You only get 1 chance at shit. He wont get the benefit of the doubt again.
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I find it unfair that another member is allotted amnesty from these rules.

Edit:
I agree. Maybe they are planning on changing the rule.

And I can see why you view it as a double standard. It's hard not to.

Do you not think that what a person offers to the site should play a role?

Within reason of course.

You got guy who does nothing but be a dick and constantly breaks the rules. He's no benefit to keep around and you KNOW he was being shady.

Then you got guy B who is a mod who is contributing and trying to improve the site and help out and made a stupid mistake (Do you think what he did was with malicious intent?)

I get what you're saying. But not everything is black and white

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In all honesty I feel a warning was being a bit too nice...as a staff member of the site we should be held to a higher standard than that of regular users,also if a staff member is unclear of the rules after being on this site for 7 years.....I find that was a cop out rebuttal regardless I feel a ban would have been a worthy course of action.. no hate but a rule is a rule
I agree. But I'd be very surprised if he did it again. Plus this will give him an extra kick up the ass to get into gear.

I'm sure if he does it again. He will be done. You only get 1 chance at shit. He wont get the benefit of the doubt again.
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Rant ain't on the wrong but X-Cal might have thought that since mods are allowed to be pm'd they can also pm. I ain't excusing his actions, I'm just saying that he might have misunderstood the rules I ain't disregarding that.

the way i see it is that xcal WANTS the site to improve..he contributes ideas, he tries to improve voting with his tourney but recent incidents have shown that he lacks the behavior of a mod. It'd be stupid to lose someone with a vision like that BUT it also looks bad to let him go freely cause I do agree. Rules are rules and should be applied to anyone no matter what color name they have or what their name actually is
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Rant ain't on the wrong but X-Cal might have thought that since mods are allowed to be pm'd they can also pm. I ain't excusing his actions, I'm just saying that he might have misunderstood the rules I ain't disregarding that.

the way i see it is that xcal WANTS the site to improve..he contributes ideas, he tries to improve voting with his tourney but recent incidents have shown that he lacks the behavior of a mod. It'd be stupid to lose someone with a vision like that BUT it also looks bad to let him go freely cause I do agree. Rules are rules and should be applied to anyone no matter what color name they have or what their name actually is
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I agree. Maybe they are planning on changing the rule.

And I can see why you view it as a double standard. It's hard not to.

Do you not think that what a person offers to the site should play a role?

Within reason of course.

You got guy who does nothing but be a dick and constantly breaks the rules. He's no benefit to keep around and you KNOW he was being shady.

Then you got guy B who is a mod who is contributing and trying to improve the site and help out and made a stupid mistake (Do you think what he did was with malicious intent?)

I get what you're saying. But not everything is black and white

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I agree. But I'd be very surprised if he did it again. Plus this will give him an extra kick up the ass to get into gear.

I'm sure if he does it again. He will be done. You only get 1 chance at shit. He wont get the benefit of the doubt again.
Not if person B has a history of similar offenses, no, I do not.

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Also, Grizz I can understand. But, does Lock REALLY make X-Calibur look that good?

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I agree. Maybe they are planning on changing the rule.

And I can see why you view it as a double standard. It's hard not to.

Do you not think that what a person offers to the site should play a role?

Within reason of course.

You got guy who does nothing but be a dick and constantly breaks the rules. He's no benefit to keep around and you KNOW he was being shady.

Then you got guy B who is a mod who is contributing and trying to improve the site and help out and made a stupid mistake (Do you think what he did was with malicious intent?)

I get what you're saying. But not everything is black and white

---------- Post added at 04:08 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:06 PM ----------



I agree. But I'd be very surprised if he did it again. Plus this will give him an extra kick up the ass to get into gear.

I'm sure if he does it again. He will be done. You only get 1 chance at shit. He wont get the benefit of the doubt again.
Not if person B has a history of similar offenses, no, I do not.

Edit:

Also, Grizz I can understand. But, does Lock REALLY make X-Calibur look that good?

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