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u said "i challenge anyone who believes in god to test me" theres no test u either believe him in him or not. u cant change someones belief. idc what u have to say. i believe in him. u wanna know why? cuz my mom actually hears his voice... and talks to jesus... liike at home and church. she can... i never believed it too,... but she does.. and hes done miracle things..and mom does stuff spiritually...dat i wont understand DAT no human or herself has control of its...Jesus. see u guys think god is fake cuz u dont know him. or dont have a relationship with him/ or choose to make fun or reject god... but dats okayyyy... cuzzz theres this dude who did dat too. and hes now a pastor.. theres lot and lots of testimonies who were just like u. (dat dont believe in jesus) and now they do... u guys are sooo focused on the sight of the world... u gather what u see by sight such as "i think people believe in god cuz they need someone to believe in or someone who created us." stop GATHERING CONSIPARCIES...and gather true facts. i actually have reltionship with jesus and my mom is with jesus and dones christianity things... WHICH makes it true facts that jesus is real why would someone do weird spiritual things..liike speak in tongue, talk to jesus, cry cry cry, pray for hours, dance crazyily for hope.??? noone JUST SUDDENLY DOES DAT. see those are facts. and real experience all u have is oppinions.
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I have had so many spiritual experiances its crazy. Thanks and yeah i am a christian most guys just take the universe for face value and dont think spiritually.
there is historians who say Jesus the man existed
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12-10-2009, 04:05 AM
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ok..Believe in Jesus that doesn't bother me at all.
No historians say that though. NONE. And that's to say you're NOT counting the "hundreds" of other people with the name of "Jesus" that existed back then .
You guys claim to have your personal experiences. There you go then. You have faith that it was the grace of God or Jesus that has done that to you. Faith..that he has done that to you. FAITH
We can close this thread with it being at that. You're beliefs are based on faith. Not to say it's NOT true. But you can't walk arround using that to justify your belief.
Trust me..I've had expereinces (not godly or spiritual) with "multi-dimensional" entities. Not saying they're spirits, or ghosts, or demons, or w.e. you want to call it. But I have expereienced shit like that. And I have seen triangular ufo's . I understand the aspect of experiencing something and someone not believing you because they've not experienced the same.
Never should I expect them to believe it though unless they have gone through the same thing.
Honestly..I think people who really think someone is talking to him may be delusional or have a nueorlogical disorder.
Then again, this is something no body can prove right nor wrong. At no point do I believe in a Christian God..
This is what I say. If I think a God is to exist..I think they are COMPLETELY unware of our existence. Meaning they didn't just come about like "yo adam and eve, dont eat those fruits" -
This is what I want to know though..you guys have these experiencess..so you piont the finger at Jesus..which primarily goes into the category of christianity..so once it goes into there, you accept "him" because you were "proven by him"..but ..you're also saying, in doing that..that you're ACCEPTING every other ounce of baggage that goes along with this belief system. Meaning you really think he may have walked on water, a snake really may have talked to eve, and a virgin may have really became PREGOO
That doesn't quite add up to me.
All I have to say is..Believe NOTHING Think EVERYTHING
You can't tell me that..going to a CERTAIN BELIEF doesn't INVOLVE "FILTERING" OUT other information that may not be compatible
with that being said, .. well..it should be self explanatory
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ok..Believe in Jesus that doesn't bother me at all.
No historians say that though. NONE. And that's to say you're NOT counting the "hundreds" of other people with the name of "Jesus" that existed back then .
You guys claim to have your personal experiences. There you go then. You have faith that it was the grace of God or Jesus that has done that to you. Faith..that he has done that to you. FAITH
We can close this thread with it being at that. You're beliefs are based on faith. Not to say it's NOT true. But you can't walk arround using that to justify your belief.
Trust me..I've had expereinces (not godly or spiritual) with "multi-dimensional" entities. Not saying they're spirits, or ghosts, or demons, or w.e. you want to call it. But I have expereienced shit like that. And I have seen triangular ufo's . I understand the aspect of experiencing something and someone not believing you because they've not experienced the same.
Never should I expect them to believe it though unless they have gone through the same thing.
Honestly..I think people who really think someone is talking to him may be delusional or have a nueorlogical disorder.
Then again, this is something no body can prove right nor wrong. At no point do I believe in a Christian God..
This is what I say. If I think a God is to exist..I think they are COMPLETELY unware of our existence. Meaning they didn't just come about like "yo adam and eve, dont eat those fruits" -
This is what I want to know though..you guys have these experiencess..so you piont the finger at Jesus..which primarily goes into the category of christianity..so once it goes into there, you accept "him" because you were "proven by him"..but ..you're also saying, in doing that..that you're ACCEPTING every other ounce of baggage that goes along with this belief system. Meaning you really think he may have walked on water, a snake really may have talked to eve, and a virgin may have really became PREGOO
That doesn't quite add up to me.
All I have to say is..Believe NOTHING Think EVERYTHING
You can't tell me that..going to a CERTAIN BELIEF doesn't INVOLVE "FILTERING" OUT other information that may not be compatible
with that being said, .. well..it should be self explanatory
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Stay In School I looked up, stomach feelin irritated and sore/ when I noticed that I couldn't see his face anymore/his body shakin twitchin. I took the blade that I stored./ 'quit movin you dead fuck', I started shankin his corpse
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yo you really are too "smart" to understand "simple" belief
God exist and you really turned me into an athiest
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every thing you believe is based on faith Warren
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christians remind me of democrats
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Oats. you completely mis understood what I was trying to say.
Yes faith..but my faith is atleast applied with LOGICAL REASONING. ... what is the most relevant to everything? What is more logical or illogical? What is more logical..is the most relative.
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nah God is logical. Im not as intelligent as you Warren i can admit that we even agree sometimes. Cool. i dont want to convert you. But get you to understand my perspective. dont take my words as a insult and i apologize for my ignorance but i do indeed know that God exist. but you dont have to. what can i do to save you. in my opinion only jesus saves and i have been judging this whole time. im sorry. C.S. lewis has some good stuff you may want to check out becuase he explains why christians take the "risk" of christianity
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Jason. Faith.
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how do you know God exists?
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same way you dont
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religion is problematic..
I'm not into it..
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