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03-09-2015, 06:12 PM
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Ranking system doesn't mean shit. Just a means for most of the shitty heads to rack up easy battles, so they can feel good about their writing and attempt to gloat. If anyone is relevant on the site, they know who is good and/or has potential and who doesn't.
In any case, from what I have noticed, there isn't enough activity to do a suggested ranking system like the tiers. How would you even place people, top tier like 5 ppl, mid 10-15, and the rest low. There is what, maybe 1 to 2 dope battles a month that isn't an event or tournament (just normal battles). It's a pointless thing to redo, no one even pays attention to it until it gets brought up in a thread like this.
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Ranking system doesn't mean shit. Just a means for most of the shitty heads to rack up easy battles, so they can feel good about their writing and attempt to gloat. If anyone is relevant on the site, they know who is good and/or has potential and who doesn't.
In any case, from what I have noticed, there isn't enough activity to do a suggested ranking system like the tiers. How would you even place people, top tier like 5 ppl, mid 10-15, and the rest low. There is what, maybe 1 to 2 dope battles a month that isn't an event or tournament (just normal battles). It's a pointless thing to redo, no one even pays attention to it until it gets brought up in a thread like this.
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03-09-2015, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Ill Phenom
Ranking system doesn't mean shit. Just a means for most of the shitty heads to rack up easy battles, so they can feel good about their writing and attempt to gloat. If anyone is relevant on the site, they know who is good and/or has potential and who doesn't.
In any case, from what I have noticed, there isn't enough activity to do a suggested ranking system like the tiers. How would you even place people, top tier like 5 ppl, mid 10-15, and the rest low. There is what, maybe 1 to 2 dope battles a month that isn't an event or tournament (just normal battles). It's a pointless thing to redo, no one even pays attention to it until it gets brought up in a thread like this.
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because we/some of us believe, the ranking system is a reason why new members don't stay on the site. they see bnas ranked #1 and say "this site is garbage, i'm out". Yeah u are right, anyone relevant knows that the ranking system is shit, but new people are new people and not relevant.
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Ranking system doesn't mean shit. Just a means for most of the shitty heads to rack up easy battles, so they can feel good about their writing and attempt to gloat. If anyone is relevant on the site, they know who is good and/or has potential and who doesn't.
In any case, from what I have noticed, there isn't enough activity to do a suggested ranking system like the tiers. How would you even place people, top tier like 5 ppl, mid 10-15, and the rest low. There is what, maybe 1 to 2 dope battles a month that isn't an event or tournament (just normal battles). It's a pointless thing to redo, no one even pays attention to it until it gets brought up in a thread like this.
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because we/some of us believe, the ranking system is a reason why new members don't stay on the site. they see bnas ranked #1 and say "this site is garbage, i'm out". Yeah u are right, anyone relevant knows that the ranking system is shit, but new people are new people and not relevant.
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03-09-2015, 07:02 PM
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It's not like we are getting any rewards for the ranking system either. The better suggestion, in my eyes anyways, do away with the ranking system and just have records on the profiles and keep the monthly rankings. The all time rankings are used for nothing, it doesn't get you awards or into tournaments or a sub-title.
And if the case is that it doesn't showcase the good members of LB, I'd say replace it with a tournament/reward section that's more view/click base similar to the "History of LB thread" but set up as a excel/page rather than a thread.
Similar to how this is Link here and then have links to the specific tournaments and battles.
Then every time a tournament or event ends, the respected mods edits in the results in the appropriate section. Would be a bit better organized keeping up with things such as the LBA, LBT, LBTT if there was certain sections that kept records and title defenses. Ex. User 1 lost title to user 2, on LBT destiny card, date inserted.. ETC.
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It's not like we are getting any rewards for the ranking system either. The better suggestion, in my eyes anyways, do away with the ranking system and just have records on the profiles and keep the monthly rankings. The all time rankings are used for nothing, it doesn't get you awards or into tournaments or a sub-title.
And if the case is that it doesn't showcase the good members of LB, I'd say replace it with a tournament/reward section that's more view/click base similar to the "History of LB thread" but set up as a excel/page rather than a thread.
Similar to how this is Link here and then have links to the specific tournaments and battles.
Then every time a tournament or event ends, the respected mods edits in the results in the appropriate section. Would be a bit better organized keeping up with things such as the LBA, LBT, LBTT if there was certain sections that kept records and title defenses. Ex. User 1 lost title to user 2, on LBT destiny card, date inserted.. ETC.
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03-09-2015, 07:30 PM
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Maybe just emphasize that records and rankings aren't an accurate portrayal of an emcee's abilities. Titles are the only things that matter tbh.
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03-09-2015, 07:40 PM
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maybe keep the star system but wipe it. remove the all time rankings. Have to wipe the star system because like Noble said, 9s and 10s were thrown out like candy in past eras. Even tho bars in this era are better, they actually get lower ratings.
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03-09-2015, 07:55 PM
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@ ILL4 you being #1 on the pseudo ranking system is making people leave the site. some people actually want to battle where talent is, when they come and naturally listen/read bars from the #1 guy they are gonna judge the sites capability based on the highest ranked person. they are going to leave immediately because you are lightweight
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03-09-2015, 07:55 PM
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lol @ the people complaining bout ranking systems and dont even battle
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but that's exactly my point..it shouldn't be based on how many battles you rack up. I can drop 20 battles a month and break the Top 10 in no time
it should be about the quality of your battles. the quality of the opponents you battle
the other ranking system would still exist, but the tiers would supplement it so that everybody knows who's who as far as skill level goes
basically, someone that always drops quality shit shouldn't have to drop 300 battles when someone that drops bullshit drops 300 and breaks the Top 10. there should be other ways to climb the ranks, because in LB's current situation, the Top 10 are locked in..and the Top 10 rankings aren't reflective of the Top 10 most skilled cats on the site
@ Ill Phenom everybody starts at Bronze...nobody gets put into a tier. You all start at Bronze, it takes X wins in the bronze division to go up to Silver
if you beat a Bronze nigga and you're Silver, you'll get less points than beatin someone in your tier or higher
now if you're Silver and you beat a Gold tiered opponent, you win more points vs beating someone in your tier or lower
& no I'm not talkin about the points system that already exists. I'm talking about an entirely different points system/algorithm for the tiers.
if you lose to someone in a lower tier, you lose more points.
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03-09-2015, 07:55 PM
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lol @ the people complaining bout ranking systems and dont even battle
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but that's exactly my point..it shouldn't be based on how many battles you rack up. I can drop 20 battles a month and break the Top 10 in no time
it should be about the quality of your battles. the quality of the opponents you battle
the other ranking system would still exist, but the tiers would supplement it so that everybody knows who's who as far as skill level goes
basically, someone that always drops quality shit shouldn't have to drop 300 battles when someone that drops bullshit drops 300 and breaks the Top 10. there should be other ways to climb the ranks, because in LB's current situation, the Top 10 are locked in..and the Top 10 rankings aren't reflective of the Top 10 most skilled cats on the site
@ Ill Phenom everybody starts at Bronze...nobody gets put into a tier. You all start at Bronze, it takes X wins in the bronze division to go up to Silver
if you beat a Bronze nigga and you're Silver, you'll get less points than beatin someone in your tier or higher
now if you're Silver and you beat a Gold tiered opponent, you win more points vs beating someone in your tier or lower
& no I'm not talkin about the points system that already exists. I'm talking about an entirely different points system/algorithm for the tiers.
if you lose to someone in a lower tier, you lose more points.
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lol you like to say i just troll and never battle, but i battle frequently, its just that i only battle good competition. but i agreed to battle you like a month ago and we all know how that went, u made excuses and said i only won because i am fvc and mods buddy voted me? lmfao. send 8 and lose those 3 blue flames again pussy.,, shiiit i might even make a thread n call u out again so ur forced to or look like a bitch lmfao @ ILL4
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03-09-2015, 09:03 PM
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@ Godbody That tier idea was a decent idea, I was just saying there isn't as much activity as their once was to run it effectively. That would have been awesome back in the day when everyone was here and always actively participating in everything.
lol @ ILL4 storming in at people with his pussy lips clapping between his legs sounding like a moaning catholic school girl. Your just pissed off because some would agree to wipe off the one thing that you cherish on this site. Those people that you named will tell you the same damn thing. Doesn't matter how many wins you have it matters who those wins are against.
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03-09-2015, 09:03 PM
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@ Godbody That tier idea was a decent idea, I was just saying there isn't as much activity as their once was to run it effectively. That would have been awesome back in the day when everyone was here and always actively participating in everything.
lol @ ILL4 storming in at people with his pussy lips clapping between his legs sounding like a moaning catholic school girl. Your just pissed off because some would agree to wipe off the one thing that you cherish on this site. Those people that you named will tell you the same damn thing. Doesn't matter how many wins you have it matters who those wins are against.
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03-09-2015, 11:15 PM
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Its called an ELO system. Alot of video games follow this method. Time for LB to cach up with the times
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