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12-02-2014, 09:31 PM
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If your countries method of determining if someone is dangerous or wanted relies on "what do they look like", your problems are probably bigger than just terrorism.
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lol it has nothing to do with what the person looks like
it has everything to do with the fact that the person might not actually be the person on the passport they are showing security.
if we dont have to show our faces whats stopping you from giving your passport to a known terrorist and letting him fly first class from "wherever" to "wherever" .. something that would NEVER be acceptable otherwise
hiding your face opens the door for limitless security breaches
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If your countries method of determining if someone is dangerous or wanted relies on "what do they look like", your problems are probably bigger than just terrorism.
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lol it has nothing to do with what the person looks like
it has everything to do with the fact that the person might not actually be the person on the passport they are showing security.
if we dont have to show our faces whats stopping you from giving your passport to a known terrorist and letting him fly first class from "wherever" to "wherever" .. something that would NEVER be acceptable otherwise
hiding your face opens the door for limitless security breaches
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12-02-2014, 09:56 PM
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lol it has nothing to do with what the person looks like
it has everything to do with the fact that the person might not actually be the person on the passport they are showing security.
if we dont have to show our faces whats stopping you from giving your passport to a known terrorist and letting him fly first class from "wherever" to "wherever" .. something that would NEVER be acceptable otherwise
hiding your face opens the door for limitless security breaches
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No, it really doesn't. The security around the passport system is strong enough that shouldn't be an issue.
Perhaps I'm wrong, but I can't think of a single instance of someone getting through airport security because is the burqa. Seems to me like this whole anti burqa movement is less about security and more about Islam.
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lol it has nothing to do with what the person looks like
it has everything to do with the fact that the person might not actually be the person on the passport they are showing security.
if we dont have to show our faces whats stopping you from giving your passport to a known terrorist and letting him fly first class from "wherever" to "wherever" .. something that would NEVER be acceptable otherwise
hiding your face opens the door for limitless security breaches
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No, it really doesn't. The security around the passport system is strong enough that shouldn't be an issue.
Perhaps I'm wrong, but I can't think of a single instance of someone getting through airport security because is the burqa. Seems to me like this whole anti burqa movement is less about security and more about Islam.
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Yes Yes Ya'll, an it don't stop....
Seems like me an' you bout had enough,
Cause man, it's tough to keep the fam in touch,
And to add it up, this rappin stuff got me flippin out like a blackjack bust
Don't give a fuck if you sound like Master P, Mobb Deep or Remy Martin,
Cuz even if the next to try us is the best of rhymers?
Still get bodied on plates like Jeffery Dahmer
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12-02-2014, 09:58 PM
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No, it really doesn't. The security around the passport system is strong enough that shouldn't be an issue.
Perhaps I'm wrong, but I can't think of a single instance of someone getting through airport security because is the burqa. Seems to me like this whole anti burqa movement is less about security and more about Islam.
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passport security can be flawless but if you cant match the face to the passport then passports might as well not exist because literally anybody can be using any passport..
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12-02-2014, 10:10 PM
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Break down to me a scenario when this could happen.
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Seems like me an' you bout had enough,
Cause man, it's tough to keep the fam in touch,
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Don't give a fuck if you sound like Master P, Mobb Deep or Remy Martin,
Cuz even if the next to try us is the best of rhymers?
Still get bodied on plates like Jeffery Dahmer
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12-02-2014, 10:12 PM
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There is a terrorist on the no fly list.. lets call him Mike.. Mike lives in Australia
Mike has a friend named Lilly with a clean passport
he trims his brows like a woman and gets on a plane to America with her passport
he gets into America which would have never been possible if he had to show his face
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12-02-2014, 10:15 PM
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No, it really doesn't. The security around the passport system is strong enough that shouldn't be an issue.
Perhaps I'm wrong, but I can't think of a single instance of someone getting through airport security because is the burqa. Seems to me like this whole anti burqa movement is less about security and more about Islam.
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No, no. Not Islam... Terrorism.
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Originally Posted by Jason
There is a terrorist on the no fly list.. lets call him Mike.. Mike lives in Australia
Mike has a friend named Lilly with a clean passport
he trims his brows like a woman and gets on a plane to America with her passport
he gets into America which would have never been possible if he had to show his face
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Because they would /never/ possibly do a security check in a US airport.
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12-02-2014, 10:15 PM
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No, it really doesn't. The security around the passport system is strong enough that shouldn't be an issue.
Perhaps I'm wrong, but I can't think of a single instance of someone getting through airport security because is the burqa. Seems to me like this whole anti burqa movement is less about security and more about Islam.
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No, no. Not Islam... Terrorism.
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There is a terrorist on the no fly list.. lets call him Mike.. Mike lives in Australia
Mike has a friend named Lilly with a clean passport
he trims his brows like a woman and gets on a plane to America with her passport
he gets into America which would have never been possible if he had to show his face
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Because they would /never/ possibly do a security check in a US airport.
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12-02-2014, 10:17 PM
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No, no. Not Islam... Terrorism.
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Because they would /never/ possibly do a security check in a US airport.
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the whole point is that they are advocating not to remove the veil under any circumstances. if this was allowed then how could they ever discover that Lilly is not Lilly but rather a handsome young Aussie man?
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12-02-2014, 10:19 PM
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the whole point is that they are advocating not to remove the veil under any circumstances. if this was allowed then how could they ever discover that Lilly is not Lilly but rather a handsome young Aussie man?
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Height, and weight differences?
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12-02-2014, 10:19 PM
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the whole point is that they are advocating not to remove the veil under any circumstances. if this was allowed then how could they ever discover that Lilly is not Lilly but rather a handsome young Aussie man?
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Height, and weight differences?
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12-02-2014, 10:20 PM
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obviously they wouldnt use the passport of someone who has wildly different measurements than the person trying to smuggle themselves in
point is the only way to verify the persons ID is to match the face to the passport and if you cant see the persons face it makes it much easier for people to sneak into places they shouldnt be
and this has nothing to do with "Islam" id say that to anyone of any color or religion whos tryin to get on a commercial flight with their face covered for any reason
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12-02-2014, 10:29 PM
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There is a terrorist on the no fly list.. lets call him Mike.. Mike lives in Australia
Mike has a friend named Lilly with a clean passport
he trims his brows like a woman and gets on a plane to America with her passport
he gets into America which would have never been possible if he had to show his face
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As a foreign national they would be fingerprinted both at the us embassy for a visa, and upon entry to the United states. So unless Mike had the same fingerprints as Lisa, this doesn't work. Try again.
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