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I get stopped all the time because I'm young, I dress how I do, play the music I do but I drive a nice car and I NEVER have drugs on me
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Dave I just finished reading this thread and you need to go outside and do something constructive, your POV is complete bullshit lol.
"If you ACT like a walking stereotype" the police SHOULDNT be stereotyping ANYWAY. That terrorist comparison Moses made is exactly spot on. You wear a hoody and walk around looking like you might have drugs but you don't - being middle eastern and wearing a turban on a plane. You're forgetting that stereotyping is WRONG and police should not be stereotyping anyway.
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Do you think it's wrong that the police stop you then?
And that wasn't the analogy. The analogy that he in fact WAS involved in terrorist acts, just not at that particular time.
Stereotyping is all the police have to go on. The police are trying to lower the risk of knife crime. Where do they go? Do they go to Piccadilly or Brixton? Who do they stop in Brixton? The woman driving a people carrier with her kids in the back, or the kid sitting on a wall with his hood up?
You don't seem to realize that profiling is ACTUALLY a technique. Criminal profiling is an actual thing. You are trying to rid the streets of crime. To do so, you pick the best possible scenario to do that. The old woman is not getting searched for drugs, but the teenage kid in the football top is. Is that discrimination, is that a bad thing? Or is that just common sense? You go to the areas that crime is most likely, and pick the people that look most likely to be involved in criminal activities.
Would any of you call bullshit if Jesse was pulled by the cops and not Walt? We all know who's the most likely suspect of the two.
I get stopped just like you V, and again, it's cause I'm young, dress a certain way, have a head full of scars etc. I accept this, because I am more likely to be carrying drugs than the dude shirt and tie across the street. I don't call bullshit just because I don't have drugs on me. It's a completely logical conclusion for the cops, and I accept that I am being picked as the best possible chance to seize drugs in the situation.
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Even though stereotyping is wrong, If you have a problem with being stereotyped than don't do what it takes to fall there. I mean you can fight against it all you want but don't leave yourself defenseless to it, thats silly.
It's like any of the activist group rather prominent or not (Feminist, Gay) wanting equal rights but still believing they shouldn't have to go through certain things. Women believe men shouldn't hit men but hit men all the time and than call the (equality) rules if a man even grip em up.
What the police do is wrong as we call illegal, no matter your opinion on it the government calls possession of drugs illegal and at the same time calls unwarranted search's and seizures illegal. Growing up I see both of them all the time, but if you have weed illegally and than you get illegally searched at the end of the day your on the losing end. Right or wrong being a matter of perspective does that. It just so happens the Government cares more about the Illegal search having results than the search being illegal itself.
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Agreed 100% on the first two parts.
It depends on the illegal search really. If I'm getting my possessions cut opened for absolutely no reason, I'm going to flip and bring that to someone to do something about it. But at the same time, if I do or have had drugs in my house in a large quantity before, who am I to say anything against it? As you said, they, and everyone else for that matter, are more interested in finding the illegal drugs over the manner in which it is done. It's like committing crimes in order to become an undercover cop. Same rules apply. I haven't, but a few years ago my brother used to cut 9bars of hash in the house a bit. If cops then suddenly raided the house like a week later, with no evidence of the drugs, how can we protest? He DID commit the crime. They just happened to be unlucky with their timing, but if you have or do commit the crime, you can't complain when the police made a mistake. Just count your blessings and adjust your methods.
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So basically, what you're saying is, don't allow yourself to be stereotyped. So we need to change the way we dress, change the way we speak, change the music we listen to in our car, buy a different car, just so the police don't mistake us for drug dealers.
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If I dress like a builder, should I be offended if someone mistakes me for one?
If you're kicking about in your track suit and hoop earrings, cops ARE going to pull you over. You walk around in a ballroom dress (please don't), you're not getting pulled over. We both know this.
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Dave I just finished reading this thread and you need to go outside and do something constructive, your POV is complete bullshit lol.
"If you ACT like a walking stereotype" the police SHOULDNT be stereotyping ANYWAY. That terrorist comparison Moses made is exactly spot on. You wear a hoody and walk around looking like you might have drugs but you don't - being middle eastern and wearing a turban on a plane. You're forgetting that stereotyping is WRONG and police should not be stereotyping anyway.
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Do you think it's wrong that the police stop you then?
And that wasn't the analogy. The analogy that he in fact WAS involved in terrorist acts, just not at that particular time.
Stereotyping is all the police have to go on. The police are trying to lower the risk of knife crime. Where do they go? Do they go to Piccadilly or Brixton? Who do they stop in Brixton? The woman driving a people carrier with her kids in the back, or the kid sitting on a wall with his hood up?
You don't seem to realize that profiling is ACTUALLY a technique. Criminal profiling is an actual thing. You are trying to rid the streets of crime. To do so, you pick the best possible scenario to do that. The old woman is not getting searched for drugs, but the teenage kid in the football top is. Is that discrimination, is that a bad thing? Or is that just common sense? You go to the areas that crime is most likely, and pick the people that look most likely to be involved in criminal activities.
Would any of you call bullshit if Jesse was pulled by the cops and not Walt? We all know who's the most likely suspect of the two.
I get stopped just like you V, and again, it's cause I'm young, dress a certain way, have a head full of scars etc. I accept this, because I am more likely to be carrying drugs than the dude shirt and tie across the street. I don't call bullshit just because I don't have drugs on me. It's a completely logical conclusion for the cops, and I accept that I am being picked as the best possible chance to seize drugs in the situation.
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Not trolling before I say this statement.
Even though stereotyping is wrong, If you have a problem with being stereotyped than don't do what it takes to fall there. I mean you can fight against it all you want but don't leave yourself defenseless to it, thats silly.
It's like any of the activist group rather prominent or not (Feminist, Gay) wanting equal rights but still believing they shouldn't have to go through certain things. Women believe men shouldn't hit men but hit men all the time and than call the (equality) rules if a man even grip em up.
What the police do is wrong as we call illegal, no matter your opinion on it the government calls possession of drugs illegal and at the same time calls unwarranted search's and seizures illegal. Growing up I see both of them all the time, but if you have weed illegally and than you get illegally searched at the end of the day your on the losing end. Right or wrong being a matter of perspective does that. It just so happens the Government cares more about the Illegal search having results than the search being illegal itself.
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Agreed 100% on the first two parts.
It depends on the illegal search really. If I'm getting my possessions cut opened for absolutely no reason, I'm going to flip and bring that to someone to do something about it. But at the same time, if I do or have had drugs in my house in a large quantity before, who am I to say anything against it? As you said, they, and everyone else for that matter, are more interested in finding the illegal drugs over the manner in which it is done. It's like committing crimes in order to become an undercover cop. Same rules apply. I haven't, but a few years ago my brother used to cut 9bars of hash in the house a bit. If cops then suddenly raided the house like a week later, with no evidence of the drugs, how can we protest? He DID commit the crime. They just happened to be unlucky with their timing, but if you have or do commit the crime, you can't complain when the police made a mistake. Just count your blessings and adjust your methods.
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So basically, what you're saying is, don't allow yourself to be stereotyped. So we need to change the way we dress, change the way we speak, change the music we listen to in our car, buy a different car, just so the police don't mistake us for drug dealers.
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If I dress like a builder, should I be offended if someone mistakes me for one?
If you're kicking about in your track suit and hoop earrings, cops ARE going to pull you over. You walk around in a ballroom dress (please don't), you're not getting pulled over. We both know this.
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I'm back and fourth with this one.. @ Moses no offense you're being bias to Dave because it's happened to you before, or someone close to you. If cops went through streets with no precaution (and they are trained to scout dealers, criminals, etc..) we'd be fucked. Shit would happen all the time and they wouldn't even know. Let me give you this situation: Say that cop doesn't stop that ''stereotype'' walking down the street, he has a black trench on, low hat, etc... The cop has a gut feeling, but doesn't stop him. That cop finds out later that freak shoots up a grade school. Is it really that much of a hassle if a cop even asks what you're up to? I'm all for the constitution and our rights and not taking illegal seizures and searches. But to some extent, you got to be open minded to what can possibly happen.. And Rodney King set a bad precedent, now every crime a cop commits involving a beating (even if justice is used) is wrong and people want compensation. Not saying it's right what happened there, but that's the snowball effect... And Dave, the turban thing made me laugh. But in all honesty, if a terrorist committed a terrorist crime, chances are he's not getting on any plane in anywhere unless he jacks that shit lmao.
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I'm back and fourth with this one.. @ Moses no offense you're being bias to Dave because it's happened to you before, or someone close to you. If cops went through streets with no precaution (and they are trained to scout dealers, criminals, etc..) we'd be fucked. Shit would happen all the time and they wouldn't even know. Let me give you this situation: Say that cop doesn't stop that ''stereotype'' walking down the street, he has a black trench on, low hat, etc... The cop has a gut feeling, but doesn't stop him. That cop finds out later that freak shoots up a grade school. Is it really that much of a hassle if a cop even asks what you're up to? I'm all for the constitution and our rights and not taking illegal seizures and searches. But to some extent, you got to be open minded to what can possibly happen.. And Rodney King set a bad precedent, now every crime a cop commits involving a beating (even if justice is used) is wrong and people want compensation. Not saying it's right what happened there, but that's the snowball effect... And Dave, the turban thing made me laugh. But in all honesty, if a terrorist committed a terrorist crime, chances are he's not getting on any plane in anywhere unless he jacks that shit lmao.
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I'm back and fourth with this one.. @ Moses no offense you're being bias to Dave because it's happened to you before, or someone close to you. If cops went through streets with no precaution (and they are trained to scout dealers, criminals, etc..) we'd be fucked. Shit would happen all the time and they wouldn't even know. Let me give you this situation: Say that cop doesn't stop that ''stereotype'' walking down the street, he has a black trench on, low hat, etc... The cop has a gut feeling, but doesn't stop him. That cop finds out later that freak shoots up a grade school. Is it really that much of a hassle if a cop even asks what you're up to? I'm all for the constitution and our rights and not taking illegal seizures and searches. But to some extent, you got to be open minded to what can possibly happen.. And Rodney King set a bad precedent, now every crime a cop commits involving a beating (even if justice is used) is wrong and people want compensation. Not saying it's right what happened there, but that's the snowball effect... And Dave, the turban thing made me laugh. But in all honesty, if a terrorist committed a terrorist crime, chances are he's not getting on any plane in anywhere unless he jacks that shit lmao. |
Say they didn't know he was a terrorist, but he WAS involved with terrorist activities in the past. If they just blatantly stereotyped him, are they in the wrong? They DO have the right man. He would have still looked the same 3 years ago, when he was planning to blow up a plane or something. Imagining that he left that shit behind him, the police would be stereotyping an innocent man as he is NOT looking to blow the plane up. If they didn't do the same check 3 years earlier, they could have all died.
Who is more likely to be a shoe bomber, the American going home from a holiday to Egypt or the Pakistan guy coming over to America for the first time? So the search should be random? EVERYONE can't be searched because productivity would completely die out. So here are the options. We randomly search people, based on now appearance profiling (therefore the American could get searched and the Pakistan man does not) or we could not search anyone at all, and just chance it.
To me, the logical thing to do is to pick the most likely scenarios. Common sense is a lot stronger here than racism. It's no different from picking the baskterball player if a 7ft dude is in the middle of a bunch of midgets. You're taking in the visual information, using your common sense to filter it, and drawing a conclusion based on the only facts you have at that moment.
It's the same situation on the streets. Imagine a cop gets a phone call about someone loading stolen goods into their car. He arrives. You have a guy, carrying a set of golf clubs, wearing a suit and tie, and putting his clubs into his Skoda Octavia. He is playing classical music from his car. On the other side of the street, you have a guy in a hoody and nike air max putting a TV into his car, playing music that talks about selling drugs from his modified Toyota Starlet. Who does the cop stop? Does he ask the guy with the Skoda if the golf clubs are stolen, or does he ask the guy in the Hoody if the TV is stolen?
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I'm back and fourth with this one.. @ Moses no offense you're being bias to Dave because it's happened to you before, or someone close to you. If cops went through streets with no precaution (and they are trained to scout dealers, criminals, etc..) we'd be fucked. Shit would happen all the time and they wouldn't even know. Let me give you this situation: Say that cop doesn't stop that ''stereotype'' walking down the street, he has a black trench on, low hat, etc... The cop has a gut feeling, but doesn't stop him. That cop finds out later that freak shoots up a grade school. Is it really that much of a hassle if a cop even asks what you're up to? I'm all for the constitution and our rights and not taking illegal seizures and searches. But to some extent, you got to be open minded to what can possibly happen.. And Rodney King set a bad precedent, now every crime a cop commits involving a beating (even if justice is used) is wrong and people want compensation. Not saying it's right what happened there, but that's the snowball effect... And Dave, the turban thing made me laugh. But in all honesty, if a terrorist committed a terrorist crime, chances are he's not getting on any plane in anywhere unless he jacks that shit lmao. |
Say they didn't know he was a terrorist, but he WAS involved with terrorist activities in the past. If they just blatantly stereotyped him, are they in the wrong? They DO have the right man. He would have still looked the same 3 years ago, when he was planning to blow up a plane or something. Imagining that he left that shit behind him, the police would be stereotyping an innocent man as he is NOT looking to blow the plane up. If they didn't do the same check 3 years earlier, they could have all died.
Who is more likely to be a shoe bomber, the American going home from a holiday to Egypt or the Pakistan guy coming over to America for the first time? So the search should be random? EVERYONE can't be searched because productivity would completely die out. So here are the options. We randomly search people, based on now appearance profiling (therefore the American could get searched and the Pakistan man does not) or we could not search anyone at all, and just chance it.
To me, the logical thing to do is to pick the most likely scenarios. Common sense is a lot stronger here than racism. It's no different from picking the baskterball player if a 7ft dude is in the middle of a bunch of midgets. You're taking in the visual information, using your common sense to filter it, and drawing a conclusion based on the only facts you have at that moment.
It's the same situation on the streets. Imagine a cop gets a phone call about someone loading stolen goods into their car. He arrives. You have a guy, carrying a set of golf clubs, wearing a suit and tie, and putting his clubs into his Skoda Octavia. He is playing classical music from his car. On the other side of the street, you have a guy in a hoody and nike air max putting a TV into his car, playing music that talks about selling drugs from his modified Toyota Starlet. Who does the cop stop? Does he ask the guy with the Skoda if the golf clubs are stolen, or does he ask the guy in the Hoody if the TV is stolen?
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Lol it's comments like^these and obeys why we have and won't have any constitutional rights in 30 years.. I wish you understood what you were saying.. But you're a product of propaganda and it's turned the world into abuncha scared ass niggas. Straight up giving up constitutional rights to be protected from a phantom thug smfh product of 9/11 .. Way before that tbh. Should be ashamed .
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Lol it's comments like^these and obeys why we have and won't have any constitutional rights in 30 years.. I wish you understood what you were saying.. But you're a product of propaganda and it's turned the world into abuncha scared ass niggas. Straight up giving up constitutional rights to be protected from a phantom thug smfh product of 9/11 .. Way before that tbh. Should be ashamed .
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Lol it's comments like^these and obeys why we have and won't have any constitutional rights in 30 years.. I wish you understood what you were saying.. But you're a product of propaganda and it's turned the world into abuncha scared ass niggas. Straight up giving up constitutional rights to be protected from a phantom thug smfh product of 9/11 .. Way before that tbh. Should be ashamed .
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I don't know about you, but I have complete rights to do whatever I want. I'm not involved in drugs, and being mistaken for someone who is does not hold me back in any way shape or form.
My favourite rap group of all time is NWA, and out of the 10 songs on my phone, KRS One - Sound of tha Police and NWA - Fuck The Police are amongst them. I don't see how I could be a product of propaganda considering that the main sources of media I engage with would be negative towards the government and police. You'd find very little dudes in my circle who'd have the freedom of thought to notice the positive side of the police.
What phantom thug am I protecting myself from, and how does this connect in any way to 9/11 or any event that happened before or after that?
Good to see some proper discussions happening on LB again guys.
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Lol it's comments like^these and obeys why we have and won't have any constitutional rights in 30 years.. I wish you understood what you were saying.. But you're a product of propaganda and it's turned the world into abuncha scared ass niggas. Straight up giving up constitutional rights to be protected from a phantom thug smfh product of 9/11 .. Way before that tbh. Should be ashamed .
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I don't know about you, but I have complete rights to do whatever I want. I'm not involved in drugs, and being mistaken for someone who is does not hold me back in any way shape or form.
My favourite rap group of all time is NWA, and out of the 10 songs on my phone, KRS One - Sound of tha Police and NWA - Fuck The Police are amongst them. I don't see how I could be a product of propaganda considering that the main sources of media I engage with would be negative towards the government and police. You'd find very little dudes in my circle who'd have the freedom of thought to notice the positive side of the police.
What phantom thug am I protecting myself from, and how does this connect in any way to 9/11 or any event that happened before or after that?
Good to see some proper discussions happening on LB again guys.
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IM ashamed of you Eth.. You sound like a cop.. Type nigga you couldn't take to the hood cus he would snitch on every nigga wearing a chain and who doesn't hold his money ina wallet cus he scared for his life. Haha
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A bit of a childish way of thinking isn't it? "You don't think the cops are the worst people in the world...that makes you one of them!". Like this that movie Faculty or something haha.
I just don't think it's that big a deal, and I'm intelligent enough to understand why I'd be pulled over instead of other people or why police might jump to certain conclusions. I was once pulled over as a kid and brought to the local shop under suspicion that I wrecked the place inside. I could have claimed that it was discrimination because of what I was wearing, but at the end of the day, it was a dude in a hoody and a shaved head that did the crime. Could I really complain what I fit the description? And could I complain when I probably wrecked a different shop the week before?
Also, I'd put my money in my wallet but if some dude stuck a knife in my face he can have my fucking trousers while he's at it. I'm not getting stabbed for my Welfare Card and a 3 year expired College ID.
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A bit of a childish way of thinking isn't it? "You don't think the cops are the worst people in the world...that makes you one of them!". Like this that movie Faculty or something haha.
I just don't think it's that big a deal, and I'm intelligent enough to understand why I'd be pulled over instead of other people or why police might jump to certain conclusions. I was once pulled over as a kid and brought to the local shop under suspicion that I wrecked the place inside. I could have claimed that it was discrimination because of what I was wearing, but at the end of the day, it was a dude in a hoody and a shaved head that did the crime. Could I really complain what I fit the description? And could I complain when I probably wrecked a different shop the week before?
Also, I'd put my money in my wallet but if some dude stuck a knife in my face he can have my fucking trousers while he's at it. I'm not getting stabbed for my Welfare Card and a 3 year expired College ID.
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I don't think you need to live in the hood to realize the circumstances. And propaganda? I hate our government, I've commented on many threads about that. I'm not disagreeing with any of you, I'm simply saying there's a way to be open minded without fully violating our rights.
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Hatred of the police and government is the largest propaganda possible here. I open my newspaper now and I won't see a SINGLE good word said about the Government, but I can bet you that there is a double page spread about something they've done bad or some scheme they have done wrong.
Worst is protestors. In Ireland you have a protest against government cuts every week. "Don't take money from the elderly!" "Give money to education!" "Don't raise taxes!". So, they want extra money put into education...but they don't want anything to be cut and they don't want raised taxes. So, are we using monopoly money now or what?
Completely off topic, but like the police, I actually feel bad for the government. Dudes can't make a single decision without getting backlash, yet not a single person thanks them for anything positive they do.
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Hatred of the police and government is the largest propaganda possible here. I open my newspaper now and I won't see a SINGLE good word said about the Government, but I can bet you that there is a double page spread about something they've done bad or some scheme they have done wrong.
Worst is protestors. In Ireland you have a protest against government cuts every week. "Don't take money from the elderly!" "Give money to education!" "Don't raise taxes!". So, they want extra money put into education...but they don't want anything to be cut and they don't want raised taxes. So, are we using monopoly money now or what?
Completely off topic, but like the police, I actually feel bad for the government. Dudes can't make a single decision without getting backlash, yet not a single person thanks them for anything positive they do.
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