Xbox One & PS4..think twice about buying either

[Mindless]

It's not a government conspiracy. It's DRM for consoles.

[Jason]

Originally Posted by pULSe

Nobody can say definitively which console is more powerful because Xbox has yet to unveil the CPU/GPU. All we know is AMD/500gb

It will require disc installs
It will require you to sign in online once every 24 hrs
It does not require Internet connection to work

And lol @ laptops. Yeah laptops have cameras but nothing as advanced as the Kinect

lol @ this

the government could spy on you through your laptop webcam regardless of if its HD or not.. who cares how "advanced" it is? it records video. period.

this is a cute theory though ..
imagine the government thinking theyre gunna find all kinds of relevant information watching potheads play black ops all day

youre a weird guy man

[Phroxen]

Originally Posted by Jason

lol @ this

imagine the government thinking theyre gunna find all kinds of relevant information watching potheads play black ops all day

LMAOOOOOOOOOOO!! Shit has me WEAK.

[Godbody]

Originally Posted by Jason

lol @ this

the government could spy on you through your laptop webcam regardless of if its HD or not.. who cares how "advanced" it is? it records video. period.

this is a cute theory though ..
imagine the government thinking theyre gunna find all kinds of relevant information watching potheads play black ops all day

youre a weird guy man

its funny that you always have something negative or extremely conservative to say in an effort to save face for a government that gives very little shits about you

& since you obviously aren't very tech-savvy, a laptop webcam is VERY different than a Kinect camera.

"who cares how "advanced" it is. it records video. period"

^ The Kinect has 3 different cameras RGB(like how we see) along with an infrared camera to map out the environment we're in, capture our depth, & recognize our face. The microphone can pick up 5 voices and it has noise cancellation and algorithms to determine who's voice belongs to which person

that's pretty intrusive. Especially on the heels of the military openly admitting they're going to hack video game consoles, & especially since the Kinect holds the Guiness Book of World Records for fastest selling electronic of all time.

let's be honest. The Kinect is the best selling electronic of all time? I bet most of ya'll don't even have one. But it is. Why? Genius marketing is why. They wanna condition ya'll to make the experience of being watched and recorded in your living room 'fun'.


@Jason you have a lot to learn about the world if you think they're just gonna sit there and watch people play Black Ops. It's 2013 son, they have better things on their mind.

so according to @Jason , it's perfectly normal to FORCE a consumer to buy a Kinect because they're mandatory on the new Xbox. It's also perfectly normal to have such a capable video/audio capturing device when it is a known fact that government & other powerful agencies have contacted Microsoft and asked how they could utilize this technology

that's cute Jason. You're naive as fuck. Everytime we get into these debates where you don't say anything logical & reach as far as you can to find the normalcy in ubiquitous situations just proves how far gone you are bro

you need medical attention.

[Jason]

Originally Posted by pULSe

its funny that you always have something negative or extremely conservative to say in an effort to save face for a government that gives very little shits about you

& since you obviously aren't very tech-savvy, a laptop webcam is VERY different than a Kinect camera.

"who cares how "advanced" it is. it records video. period"

^ The Kinect has 3 different cameras RGB(like how we see) along with an infrared camera to map out the environment we're in, capture our depth, & recognize our face. The microphone can pick up 5 voices and it has noise cancellation and algorithms to determine who's voice belongs to which person

that's pretty intrusive. Especially on the heels of the military openly admitting they're going to hack video game consoles, & especially since the Kinect holds the Guiness Book of World Records for fastest selling electronic of all time.

let's be honest. The Kinect is the best selling electronic of all time? I bet most of ya'll don't even have one. But it is. Why? Genius marketing is why. They wanna condition ya'll to make the experience of being watched and recorded in your living room 'fun'.


@Jason you have a lot to learn about the world if you think they're just gonna sit there and watch people play Black Ops. It's 2013 son, they have better things on their mind.

so according to @Jason , it's perfectly normal to FORCE a consumer to buy a Kinect because they're mandatory on the new Xbox. It's also perfectly normal to have such a capable video/audio capturing device when it is a known fact that government & other powerful agencies have contacted Microsoft and asked how they could utilize this technology

that's cute Jason. You're naive as fuck. Everytime we get into these debates where you don't say anything logical & reach as far as you can to find the normalcy in ubiquitous situations just proves how far gone you are bro

you need medical attention.

ok so the government can know exactly how many hairs are on my face and check my fade from the side as i play black ops and drink beer

is that what youre saying?

you clearly didnt read that article about the military very carefully, theyre hacking information that you directly put onto the console. why on earth would anyone care if the government sees what you said in a chatbox to your friend after a game of Fifa 13?
youre a class A paranoid.
they never said they're accessing the camera and turning it on without your consent and recording you without your knowledge. that would be extremely illegal.

and no ones "Forcing" you to buy a connect
you very much have the option to buy this machine or not buy this machine
youre actin like theyre forcing you to put this thing at the front of your bed and have no control over when the government hits "record" on you lol.

worst case scenario all of you people plotting to overthrow the government are going to have to wait till youre done your game of Fifa to continue talking about your plans : ( shit is gettin rough

by the way .. they sold 8 million of these things?

hope the illuminati is payin double time for overtime

[Godbody]

lol its not about reading articles carefully. its about reading between the lines.

I'm sure you believe the part of the article where they said they were hacking foreign consoles only? Oh yeah, that provides me a great deal of relief. Our government has never lied to us or invaded our privacy before

why on Earth would anyone care? Because as citizens of this country we're entitled to rights. We're entitled to privacy. But somewhere down the line the government said "fuck your privacy"... & While you aren't being forced to buy the Kinect.... If you want the Xbox One, it comes with a Kinect out of the box. Even if you dont have any use or need for it. Essentially they're bundling $150 worth of equipment and forcing you to pay for it, even if you don't want it.

What if I don't want a Kinect? What if I only play FPS games and sports games?

"Too bad, now give us $100 extra and here's your Xbox One"

ya don't see what im getting at? Technology is powerful these days,how would you know they're not recording you? even when its off? They could easily design the kinect so that when the Xbox isn't in use, the LED light (let's go with the generic green light to symbolize a powered on device) turns off. but just because the LED light that symbolizes its on/off is off, doesn't mean the kinect is

In fact, you'll be able to turn on your Xbox One with your voice. What does that tell you? That it was never fully off in the first place, and that the microphone has to be on in order for it to pick up the command for you to turn the xbox on

So no, its not just "data" you input that they're collecting. In fact, the new Kinect will be able to recognize everything about you, down to the fuckin brand of clothes you wear so that Advertisements can be shown to you based on your likes in clothing, sports, etc.

[Jason]

Originally Posted by pULSe

lol its not about reading articles carefully. its about reading between the lines.

I'm sure you believe the part of the article where they said they were hacking foreign consoles only? Oh yeah, that provides me a great deal of relief. Our government has never lied to us or invaded our privacy before

why on Earth would anyone care? Because as citizens of this country we're entitled to rights. We're entitled to privacy. But somewhere down the line the government said "fuck your privacy"... & While you aren't being forced to buy the Kinect.... If you want the Xbox One, it comes with a Kinect out of the box. Even if you dont have any use or need for it. Essentially they're bundling $150 worth of equipment and forcing you to pay for it, even if you don't want it.

What if I don't want a Kinect? What if I only play FPS games and sports games?

"Too bad, now give us $100 extra and here's your Xbox One"

ya don't see what im getting at? Technology is powerful these days,how would you know they're not recording you? even when its off? They could easily design the kinect so that when the Xbox isn't in use, the LED light (let's go with the generic green light to symbolize a powered on device) turns off. but just because the LED light that symbolizes its on/off is off, doesn't mean the kinect is

In fact, you'll be able to turn on your Xbox One with your voice. What does that tell you? That it was never fully off in the first place, and that the microphone has to be on in order for it to pick up the command for you to turn the xbox on

unplug your xbox when you arent playing it

when you are playing it .. dont talk about your obama assassination plans

problem solved

[Godbody]

yeah...us rocket scientists on Letsbeef decided that unplugging it after use was a viable solution

a lil late there, captain obvious

[J u s T C]

Aye I can easily see me broadcasting myself talkng about some shit I don't want other people to know because I forgot to un plug my new xboxone lol.

I don't like the thought that some weirdo watching me slobbed out unshaven and in my draws playing Fifa 14 because the Kinect has to be on if I wanna play.

GOV Spys or lonely weirdo, this shit is hackable and as a result will be fucked with, and I don't like that. I come home to chill without having to answer to anyone or have my self open to scrutiny, I have enough of that in the outside world, I don't need it in the 1 place I actually get a break from it all, no thanks.

[Jason]

Originally Posted by pULSe

yeah...us rocket scientists on Letsbeef decided that unplugging it after use was a viable solution

a lil late there, captain obvious

all it takes is 1 person tracking their internet usage to see that the xbox is consuming twice as much data as it should and then the government is dealing with a total shitstorm

lol @ thinking the government has the time or the manpower to dig through 100s of terabytes of data a day of people playing video games