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What has changed in the last year since Wig was a mod? Mods have ALWAYS had higher VP, and mods have NEVER been recruited on skill level, battling experience or knowledge. The only reason the current mod team is better is because we went through a phase of "Only Classick members become staff" lmao. How about this. A mod could be inactive in battling for years, but stay helping out the site in other ways. If they then decide to vote on something, even though they are rusty in all aspects of battling, their judgement is still ranked higher than others? Having a green name doesnt make your opinion any more valid than someone elses. Everyone should have quite a high VP, and the only realy changes should be deductions to VP.

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The reason we have such a high VP [Which Askari already touched on earlier] Is because we have to deal with hate votes and self voters on your battles/reverse losses ect and sometimes the only way to get around that is by voting our selves with a higher vp.

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Say if I go to reverse a loss into a win on someone's battle, sometimes the system will only allow for the battle to be re opened for votes deleting all the votes that brought about the initial loss [clean slate] Since I'm trying to make sure the loss gets turned into a win for the other party I have to vote then with my higher VP to go some way to assuring it gets turned into a win in case 1 or more people don't read my comment then vote for the other person who's win I am trying to reverse whilst its still open for votes
Can't you just delete the votes for the offending guy?

And that's not what we're talking about anyways. That's more of a system error. We're talking about actual judgement in battling.
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What has changed in the last year since Wig was a mod? Mods have ALWAYS had higher VP, and mods have NEVER been recruited on skill level, battling experience or knowledge. The only reason the current mod team is better is because we went through a phase of "Only Classick members become staff" lmao. How about this. A mod could be inactive in battling for years, but stay helping out the site in other ways. If they then decide to vote on something, even though they are rusty in all aspects of battling, their judgement is still ranked higher than others? Having a green name doesnt make your opinion any more valid than someone elses. Everyone should have quite a high VP, and the only realy changes should be deductions to VP.

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The reason we have such a high VP [Which Askari already touched on earlier] Is because we have to deal with hate votes and self voters on your battles/reverse losses ect and sometimes the only way to get around that is by voting our selves with a higher vp.

Example

Say if I go to reverse a loss into a win on someone's battle, sometimes the system will only allow for the battle to be re opened for votes deleting all the votes that brought about the initial loss [clean slate] Since I'm trying to make sure the loss gets turned into a win for the other party I have to vote then with my higher VP to go some way to assuring it gets turned into a win in case 1 or more people don't read my comment then vote for the other person who's win I am trying to reverse whilst its still open for votes
Can't you just delete the votes for the offending guy?

And that's not what we're talking about anyways. That's more of a system error. We're talking about actual judgement in battling.
 
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we also have to keep the offending voters votes for future reference. thats another situation a higher vp is needed.
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we also have to keep the offending voters votes for future reference. thats another situation a higher vp is needed.
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I was the one who encouraged @Unyqe to post this thread just to see what a public poll would say. I can see certain points that Askari and Just C has made, but I can also see where Jason and others are coming from as well. The only thing I can promise right now is we will deliberate it further in the staff lounge and try to come up with some solution.

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I was the one who encouraged @Unyqe to post this thread just to see what a public poll would say. I can see certain points that Askari and Just C has made, but I can also see where Jason and others are coming from as well. The only thing I can promise right now is we will deliberate it further in the staff lounge and try to come up with some solution.

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i voted yes - because - Fvc dont have as much responsibility has a Mod or Admin. all they have to do is vote fairly. as to Mods & Admins they have more to lose if they bullshit vote... so yes i think Mods & Admins should have higher Vp
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i voted yes - because - Fvc dont have as much responsibility has a Mod or Admin. all they have to do is vote fairly. as to Mods & Admins they have more to lose if they bullshit vote... so yes i think Mods & Admins should have higher Vp
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To be honest, I think a vp of 6-8 for one person is somewhat unnecessary. Why do Mods need that much power? I think that FVC and Mods should both have the same voting power because they both have obviously shown their ability to not only vote well but have shown the depth of knowledge that they as an individual know about rap/battle rap etc. Though unlikely it is entirely possible that someone in FVC might know more about rap than a Mod. Better to just put them all at a leveled field that is still higher than the general populace. That's just my take on it.
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To be honest, I think a vp of 6-8 for one person is somewhat unnecessary. Why do Mods need that much power? I think that FVC and Mods should both have the same voting power because they both have obviously shown their ability to not only vote well but have shown the depth of knowledge that they as an individual know about rap/battle rap etc. Though unlikely it is entirely possible that someone in FVC might know more about rap than a Mod. Better to just put them all at a leveled field that is still higher than the general populace. That's just my take on it.
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I can only say as someone receiving a vote. I asked both RULE and Erupt to rate my verse before it came out. Both had similar replies to it, but I dont judge one over the other. Both are respected in battling, and I accept both of their opinion the same wat. RULE's opinion counts more so than Erupt's, but why? Because someone deemed him good enough to be a mod?

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I can only say as someone receiving a vote. I asked both RULE and Erupt to rate my verse before it came out. Both had similar replies to it, but I dont judge one over the other. Both are respected in battling, and I accept both of their opinion the same wat. RULE's opinion counts more so than Erupt's, but why? Because someone deemed him good enough to be a mod?

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i voted yes - because - Fvc dont have as much responsibility has a Mod or Admin. all they have to do is vote fairly. as to Mods & Admins they have more to lose if they bullshit vote... so yes i think Mods & Admins should have higher Vp
You're right FVC dont have much responsibilities, FVC responsibilities are to vote on every battle that is dropped in their thread and there suppose to drop fair votes along with fair ratings and accurate expos where as a mods responsibilities dont even revolve around voting at all.. A mods job has nothing to do with voting while a FVC member's job revolves solely around voting..
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i voted yes - because - Fvc dont have as much responsibility has a Mod or Admin. all they have to do is vote fairly. as to Mods & Admins they have more to lose if they bullshit vote... so yes i think Mods & Admins should have higher Vp
You're right FVC dont have much responsibilities, FVC responsibilities are to vote on every battle that is dropped in their thread and there suppose to drop fair votes along with fair ratings and accurate expos where as a mods responsibilities dont even revolve around voting at all.. A mods job has nothing to do with voting while a FVC member's job revolves solely around voting..
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To be honest, I think a vp of 6-8 for one person is somewhat unnecessary. Why do Mods need that much power? I think that FVC and Mods should both have the same voting power because they both have obviously shown their ability to not only vote well but have shown the depth of knowledge that they as an individual know about rap/battle rap etc. Though unlikely it is entirely possible that someone in FVC might know more about rap than a Mod. Better to just put them all at a leveled field that is still higher than the general populace. That's just my take on it.


okay... then why not make everyones vp that high ?? alot of artist here know about rap & battle rap just as much as a mod admin or fvc member. an alot of artist on here votes the exact same way as the fvc mods an admins.....But i guess here its all about ur title.
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To be honest, I think a vp of 6-8 for one person is somewhat unnecessary. Why do Mods need that much power? I think that FVC and Mods should both have the same voting power because they both have obviously shown their ability to not only vote well but have shown the depth of knowledge that they as an individual know about rap/battle rap etc. Though unlikely it is entirely possible that someone in FVC might know more about rap than a Mod. Better to just put them all at a leveled field that is still higher than the general populace. That's just my take on it.


okay... then why not make everyones vp that high ?? alot of artist here know about rap & battle rap just as much as a mod admin or fvc member. an alot of artist on here votes the exact same way as the fvc mods an admins.....But i guess here its all about ur title.
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