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Unread 12-16-2013, 02:24 PM
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Lmao...@Crysis.. Creative Genius At Work. Smh.

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Unread 12-16-2013, 02:25 PM
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Little disappointed in the mask, if I'm being honest. And you didnt hold up the requested sign of authenticity either. But Props for being a girl of your word though. Not many woulda went through with this.

I'm not doubting you but if this does turn out to be some sort of google image search fake you will be banned. I trust you though and will thus give you the benefit of the doubt Lol.

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Little disappointed in the mask, if I'm being honest. And you didnt hold up the requested sign of authenticity either. But Props for being a girl of your word though. Not many woulda went through with this.

I'm not doubting you but if this does turn out to be some sort of google image search fake you will be banned. I trust you though and will thus give you the benefit of the doubt Lol.

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Unread 12-16-2013, 02:34 PM
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Little disappointed in the mask, if I'm being honest. And you didnt hold up the requested sign of authenticity either. But Props for being a girl of your word though. Not many woulda went through with this.

I'm not doubting you but if this does turn out to be some sort of google image search fake you will be banned. I trust you though and will thus give you the benefit of the doubt Lol.

Although Blnk might not be so forgiving.
naah hes clean https://www.google.co.in/search?tbs=...MxBxiMxdQBf1wr
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Little disappointed in the mask, if I'm being honest. And you didnt hold up the requested sign of authenticity either. But Props for being a girl of your word though. Not many woulda went through with this.

I'm not doubting you but if this does turn out to be some sort of google image search fake you will be banned. I trust you though and will thus give you the benefit of the doubt Lol.

Although Blnk might not be so forgiving.
naah hes clean https://www.google.co.in/search?tbs=...MxBxiMxdQBf1wr
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Unread 12-16-2013, 02:40 PM
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Lol dude is that lingerie that matches the mask in the kneecap vicinity? Or is it part of the dress?
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Lol dude is that lingerie that matches the mask in the kneecap vicinity? Or is it part of the dress?
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Unread 12-16-2013, 03:11 PM
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@Just C, I can assure you that's me...as well as my gf could, she took the pic. Besides, who else wears a mask, and or would post that shit on google images?...You never said any thing about "no mask" I will always wear it until it's time to take it off. As far as this "sign of authenticity" I wasn't aware I was supposed to make one???.. If you for some reason don't believe it's me, I'd be happy to turn the cam on and take you on a virtual tour...show you the same wall behind me.

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@Just C, I can assure you that's me...as well as my gf could, she took the pic. Besides, who else wears a mask, and or would post that shit on google images?...You never said any thing about "no mask" I will always wear it until it's time to take it off. As far as this "sign of authenticity" I wasn't aware I was supposed to make one???.. If you for some reason don't believe it's me, I'd be happy to turn the cam on and take you on a virtual tour...show you the same wall behind me.

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Lmaooooooooooooo, would've been funnier if it was BLNK
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Lmaooooooooooooo, would've been funnier if it was BLNK
 
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@Just C clearly stated that wearing a mask was a forfeit.
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@Just C clearly stated that wearing a mask was a forfeit.
 
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Unread 12-16-2013, 04:28 PM
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^This is true.

But I agree, I would have been more entertained by BLNK in a dress.
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^This is true.

But I agree, I would have been more entertained by BLNK in a dress.
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Like I read every single post on these threads @BLNK, I Do Not take my mask off for ANY pictures or Video. I Kept my end regardless, I'm roccin' a sig. with women's clothes.
Because Trust me, Blnk would NOT of done this if he did lose. @Fidel Z @Crysis

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Like I read every single post on these threads @BLNK, I Do Not take my mask off for ANY pictures or Video. I Kept my end regardless, I'm roccin' a sig. with women's clothes.
Because Trust me, Blnk would NOT of done this if he did lose. @Fidel Z @Crysis

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