Who's to say.

[J u s T C]

Originally Posted by Louie Dawgs

Right and wrong are just arbitrary concepts. In a literal sense there is no such thing as right and wrong. We construct what we consider right and wrong, so I think it's a bit silly to make decisions as to whether or not or not the natural behavior of species is right or wrong.

Anyway, with regard to normalcy, there are certainly different levels of normal for different species. One of the things with humans is that we have higher order thinking skills and have a large number of personalities and behaviors, much unlike most animals, which makes understanding the fundamental human character very difficult.

If it is, I don't honestly see the problem with it. I may horror our sense of morality, but that's just something that we constructed, there's nothing absolute about it.

Bingo. We make these decisions and judgements based on the consensus. I.E Murder & Theft is wrong because it is seen as abnormal and abhorrent to the majority who don't take part in these acts, the rule get's passed. Public outcry peer pressure ect. if you don't fall in line with what the majority deemed normal, you will lose.

This obviously isn't the case all of the time though. Since the system has been manipulated for monetary gain. Taxes ect. if you don't pay these, even extortionate fees, you will be given a prison sentence as you are "Breaking the law"

[Aggo]

Its all about that empathy.

[Fredo Lombardi]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

It is normal, just not legal to do.

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[Student]

I Think It All Really Comes Down To Common Sense.

[Warren Peece]

I don't think rape nor murder is necessary for survival. I think those actions are triggered by selfish pleasure and gain.

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Whether it is morally right or wrong ..that is mere opinion. Most belief it's wrong. If you think there is nothing wrong with it, suit yourself, but there are certain consequences for certain actions. It all depends on whether you are willing to accept any of those consequences.

[J u s T C]

Rape I agree. Killing is urge and survival. Theft is survival

Hyena steals lions kill
Man steals womans purse.

[Warren Peece]

Most humans nowadays aren't killing for urge nor survival. It's for like I said selfish (greedy) reasons. And because we have the capacity to actually reason with ourselves, it definitely points out why it's not necessary anymore. Murder happens though and always will happen. Some murders may be justified I guess, but all in all it's perspectives. I definitely don't think we should base our own morals off of the legal system or religion either, but that's just me.

anyways about you saying killing and theft being for survival...look in the world we live in today..if you DON'T kill or DON'T STEAL..that means you won't survive? No you'll survive. You're not going to sieze to exist just by choosing to not kill or steal. It's not absolutely necessary. Maybe people steal to survive "economically" but that's a whole 'nother thing haha.

[Phoenix]

Politicans are the biggest theives.

Pretty much all been said in this already. Normal probably wasn't the right word, but in a case of right and wrong, that's only decided by society. For example, a long time ago having sex with someone under the age of 14 would be pretty normal for an adult male, but it would be almost the most disgusting thing possible to the majority of us now, with no revenge being too much on a committer. This is just because we are programmed in a certain way to hold rights and wrongs in certain regards.

[V3numb]

Originally Posted by Just C

Rape, murder, theft ect isn't normal/right?

Who's to say that these very actions aren't just normal human behavious that we were born or programmed, w.e you wanna call it, to do?

It's only made up human laws which dictate whats right or wrong for people who these very actions are natural urges.

Wild animals for instance kill their own with no repercussions, they steal food from another predators kill with no repercussions other than the natural tribal urge to fight it out, and to the winner go the spoils. I could go on but you get where I'm going with this.

this makes a lot of sense tbh.. human society does play a role when it comes to being "right and wrong".. animals do that shit all the time..


imean if it was that then everyone would be more on their toes than normal and society with be more chaotic



but for humans we are "supposedly" more advanced than the average animal.. we're suppose to be superior.. and have adapted more as a whole, while everything else around us is considered under us.. we all as humans do have most those urges but its the fact that over years our minds over surpress the urges due to the fact it wasnt happening as much.. kinda like when you dont usee a muscle for awhile it starts to grow weak .. our instincts pretty much add upp with everything else animals do.. Eat,fuck,sleep and survive.. so those things wdnt be out thw question in order to survive am i right?.. but since we're in a more civilized environment it wdnt be necessary unless you were ugly,poor,and had anger issues


at one time we were most likely like that but then evolved and developed more as a whole,not needing to do all that anymore.. nowadays its more about greed than survival if you were charged with those actions

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Originally Posted by Just C

Rape I agree. Killing is urge and survival. Theft is survival

Hyena steals lions kill
Man steals womans purse.

humans/animals need to reproduce..

it's an instinct to reproduce,so therefore rape would be considered survival .. unless you just busting a nut in the mouth or somthing