Science/Religion Debate (BE RESPECTFUL)

[Dono]

Originally Posted by EtH

You can't do this conversation based off the perception you have from non scripture. God isn't all loving and peaceful. Vengeance, wrath and pain are a big part of the bible.

Again, who's to say God doesn't want to test us? My sensei is a good guy, but he doesn't just hand me a black belt. You're trying to use logic knowing NOTHING about what you're being logical about. If God is real, how do you know ANYTHING about him/her/it? The bible doesn't give many characteristics except love really, and that could be the same love as dropping your kid in the deep end of the pool.

Your sensei isn't capable of just inserting the knowledge directly into your being. God is. I've never wanted anyone who I love to feel pain, if I was capable of removing it I would do so. Especially if I controlled every aspect, I would have my loved ones in a forever idealized state.

What end could it possibly serve for God to create us, let us wander around, and damn some of us? Y'all just wanna believe there's something after you die and a higher power you can be accountable to. The bible is full of inconsistencies.

The entire concept of a test is completely pointless. Would you give out an exam to students if you KNOW without a doubt the score they will get? What good is that.

Originally Posted by Dono

Your sensei isn't capable of just inserting the knowledge directly into your being. God is. I've never wanted anyone who I love to feel pain, if I was capable of removing it I would do so. Especially if I controlled every aspect, I would have my loved ones in a forever idealized state.

What end could it possibly serve for God to create us, let us wander around, and damn some of us? Y'all just wanna believe there's something after you die and a higher power you can be accountable to. The bible is full of inconsistencies.

The entire concept of a test is completely pointless. Would you give out an exam to students if you KNOW without a doubt the score they will get? What good is that.

You are using your love for a brother or sister, gf or whatever, as your basis. How can you possible comprehend the feelings of a GOD? God doesn't have human emotions. He's not some guy playing puppet master. You can't just use the logic you implement on your day to day life to something that could have created every single thing you've ever known.

Basically, what you're doing is being a guy in the pub saying "The Government should just kill the leader of North Korea" not thinking of allllllll the other aspects that he can't even comprehend that would come into effect.

[Student]

I'm Not Saying You Guys Are Wrong But Christianity Is Such An Easy Religion To Bash, If You Really Want To Debate Religion Vs. Science You Have To Go Back, Pr-organized Religion And Pre-symbolism And Look Into The Early Oral History Of Doctrines And Lessons Taught By People. Religion In It's Simplest Form Is Faith. Why Did Early Man Have Faith And Why Did Some Men (Buddha, Mohammed, Jesus, Confucius, Moses, etc.) Believe They Were "Chosen" To Bring About New Religions And Why Did People Choose To Follow Them And Essentially Start Organized Religion? People Thought Fire Was Magic (Black Magic At One Point Too) And Anyone Who Could "Conjure" It Was Worshiped Like A God (Also Look At Early Paganism) But Soon People Disproved That Fire Was Magic And If Simply A Reaction When Certain Elements Are Presented In Such A Fashion (First A Theory Then Easily Proven). Given That, Why Didn't People Just Dispel Early Religious Leaders And Say Everything Could Eventually Be Explained By Science They Just Haven't Reached That Level Of Intelligence Yet? Were They Gravitating Towards Faith Because They Wanted Something To Believe In, Something Better, Something To Make This All Seem Worth It? Was It Forced Onto People To Encourage Them To Work, Claiming If They Didn't They Would Rot In Hell Forever?

[The Dope Man]

Religion was created to bring order to society. It gave communities a set of morales/rules to live by & with religion & it's predicted consequences made it easy to control the general population. It also generated an income.

You know why christians/catholics have to eat fish on fridays? Because the sales on fish in Italy depleted, so the Pope initiated this rule. #TrueStory

To This Day Religion Still Controls Society.

I Don't Believe God, But It's Better To Just Accept It. If Believing In God Makes Someone a Better Person & Brings Order To Society Then WHy Not Implement Religion Into a Community.

#DopeThoughts

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I Have Faith In Mankind, Not God.

I'm actually in with @Tha Dope Man on that. I can believe that most religions were created as an early ages book of morality.

[The Dope Man]

@EtH You can't really argue that it wasn't designed to establish order and morales to live by within the community.

Obviously it's not the only purpose. I'm sure most actually believed in what they we're living by.

[Godbody]

you obviously saw the Bill Nye vs Ken Ham debate

here's what you need to know about creation. & my viewpoint differs from both of their views but falls more in line with Bill Nye.

we've been alive for longer than you know. how long, i dont know. but longer than the age you have. we start off as micro organisms and we've evolved into humans. so its safe to say we've been around thousands of years to say the least. Bill Nye said we were created from star matter. Its true. We're a part of the universe. We're just one organism of many. Star matter. Matter that moves and gets transferred but never destroyed

& religion is a control mechanism. i've said it about 100 times on here but apparently people like to bring it up

[Student]

Originally Posted by Godbody

you obviously saw the Bill Nye vs Ken Ham debate

here's what you need to know about creation. & my viewpoint differs from both of their views but falls more in line with Bill Nye.

we've been alive for longer than you know. how long, i dont know. but longer than the age you have. we start off as micro organisms and we've evolved into humans. so its safe to say we've been around thousands of years to say the least. Bill Nye said we were created from star matter. Its true. We're a part of the universe. We're just one organism of many. Star matter. Matter that moves and gets transferred but never destroyed

& religion is a control mechanism. i've said it about 100 times on here but apparently people like to bring it up

You've Said A Lot Of Things 100's Of Times. #BoyWhoCriedWolf

[The Dope Man]

@Godbody I've never watched Bill Nye Or Anyone.. I formed those ideas from schoolin & learning facts then i derive a conclusion.

[Godbody]

Im talkin to @Obey Dope Man

& @Student , Boy Who Cried Wolf is about someone who lied that eventually told the truth and nobody believed him. I aint ever lie doe

You either have the knowledge I have or you dont. & Its not in your brain cuz ya soul carries it over