FVC Membership Contest Round 1 (Text) - Lets Beef

**NOBLE** · #37 08-02-2012, 05:00 AM

@Erupt vs @Unyqe
http://www.letsbeef.com/battle_detai...n=tb&id=442891
Erupt Voted: Adope Hitter: 3 / _Lizman_: 5
Unyqe Voted: Adope Hitter: 6 / _Lizman_: 7
Unyqe started off making a valid point telling Adope to avoid wasting bars talking about himself rather than dissing his opponent. Erupt also made another valid point when he pointed out that its okay to do that sometimes to add a swag factor, but it should be reserved for longer verses. Unyqe, you pointed out to Adope that he had weak concepts, poor structure and broken multies. I think it would have been more helpful if you had given specific examples from his own verse to show what you meant by that. It's possible that he might not even understand how his multies were broken, otherwise he would not have used it in that way. I also felt you could have gone into more detail in your critique of Lizman's verse as well.
Erupt, contrary to Unyqe, you actually told Adope that he had a good structure but you also pointed out the same thing that his multies need work. Again, I think it would have been better if examples had been expo'd to show how he had different syllable counts to his multis and what was wrong with that and how he might not have slant rhymed properly in certain instances. You told him to "Stay away from multis like WEAK OR TOO".. They were capped for no reason n messes up the flow." But I personally felt he capped WEAK OR TOO because it goes with PHILLYS EAGLES, BITCH WE FEEL YOU, CHICK WE KILLED TOO, MISSED AN HEALED THROUGH, and PHILLY GIVES YOU. Yea it was broken (wrong syllable count) and it didn't properly rhyme with the rest of the scheme, but I wouldn't say it was capped for no reason judging from the style of the rest of his verse. He just needs to work on not having them broken but I understood why he capped them. You both gave pretty much the same critique to Lizman, and I also felt Erupt could have gone into more detail as well, but I felt like the way Erupt put it by pointing out that even though his verse shows that he understand complexity, he often totally ignores wordplay was notable and was a great advice for Lizman in particular. I felt that Erupt's critique towards Lizman had a better touch. As far as ratings go, I did feel that Erupt's ratings were a bit low in this. I probably would have rated them closer to what Unyqe gave them. Overall, even with all my criticism, I felt you both gave adequate and accurate expos and pretty much pointed out a lot of the same things to both battlers with the exception of certain nuances. It was very close, but I'm going to go with my feeling as to who brought the better overall touch to their expo and I'm going to vote for Erupt.

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@Dave vs @Skilligan™
http://www.letsbeef.com/battle_detai...n=tb&id=442898
Dave Voted: xiTom: 2 / krustyclown841: 3
Skilligan™ Voted: xiTom: 3 / krustyclown841: 4
You both gave decent expos and pointed out a lot of the same things, but I felt Dave's expo was fuller and more comprehensive.

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@Student vs @Phenomonon
Phenomonon Voted: Slithz: 5 / BLUNT MAN: 6
Student Voted: Slithz: 4 / BLUNT MAN: 5
Phenomonon, I liked the fact that you did a bar by bar breakdown, but I felt that you did so using generic terms and often didn't use specific examples from the battler's verses. You often said things like "Your next bar (shits tight/bitch light) was filler imo cuz there was nothing to it and you weren't really going anywhere with it" or the set-up wasn't relevant to the punch, but you could have gone further to show how. Nothing was innaccurate about the things you pointed out, but I think what benefits most battlers is not just if you point out what's wrong with their verse but when you also let them know how they can improve. Student pretty much did a bar by bar follow through of each verse as well, but he went further by showing examples from the battlers' own lines to further explain what he was saying. He even went so far as to offer for one of them to inbox him if they would like to learn more...which I thought was great! I also felt Student's rating of the battle was more accurate. You both did a great job, and had this not been a voting battle, I wouldn't have any critiques, but from reviewing both votes and expos, I felt Student's approach was more robust.

**NOBLE** · 08-02-2012, 05:00 AM

@Erupt vs @Unyqe
http://www.letsbeef.com/battle_detai...n=tb&id=442891
Erupt Voted: Adope Hitter: 3 / _Lizman_: 5
Unyqe Voted: Adope Hitter: 6 / _Lizman_: 7
Unyqe started off making a valid point telling Adope to avoid wasting bars talking about himself rather than dissing his opponent. Erupt also made another valid point when he pointed out that its okay to do that sometimes to add a swag factor, but it should be reserved for longer verses. Unyqe, you pointed out to Adope that he had weak concepts, poor structure and broken multies. I think it would have been more helpful if you had given specific examples from his own verse to show what you meant by that. It's possible that he might not even understand how his multies were broken, otherwise he would not have used it in that way. I also felt you could have gone into more detail in your critique of Lizman's verse as well.
Erupt, contrary to Unyqe, you actually told Adope that he had a good structure but you also pointed out the same thing that his multies need work. Again, I think it would have been better if examples had been expo'd to show how he had different syllable counts to his multis and what was wrong with that and how he might not have slant rhymed properly in certain instances. You told him to "Stay away from multis like WEAK OR TOO".. They were capped for no reason n messes up the flow." But I personally felt he capped WEAK OR TOO because it goes with PHILLYS EAGLES, BITCH WE FEEL YOU, CHICK WE KILLED TOO, MISSED AN HEALED THROUGH, and PHILLY GIVES YOU. Yea it was broken (wrong syllable count) and it didn't properly rhyme with the rest of the scheme, but I wouldn't say it was capped for no reason judging from the style of the rest of his verse. He just needs to work on not having them broken but I understood why he capped them. You both gave pretty much the same critique to Lizman, and I also felt Erupt could have gone into more detail as well, but I felt like the way Erupt put it by pointing out that even though his verse shows that he understand complexity, he often totally ignores wordplay was notable and was a great advice for Lizman in particular. I felt that Erupt's critique towards Lizman had a better touch. As far as ratings go, I did feel that Erupt's ratings were a bit low in this. I probably would have rated them closer to what Unyqe gave them. Overall, even with all my criticism, I felt you both gave adequate and accurate expos and pretty much pointed out a lot of the same things to both battlers with the exception of certain nuances. It was very close, but I'm going to go with my feeling as to who brought the better overall touch to their expo and I'm going to vote for Erupt.

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@Dave vs @Skilligan™
http://www.letsbeef.com/battle_detai...n=tb&id=442898
Dave Voted: xiTom: 2 / krustyclown841: 3
Skilligan™ Voted: xiTom: 3 / krustyclown841: 4
You both gave decent expos and pointed out a lot of the same things, but I felt Dave's expo was fuller and more comprehensive.

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@Student vs @Phenomonon
Phenomonon Voted: Slithz: 5 / BLUNT MAN: 6
Student Voted: Slithz: 4 / BLUNT MAN: 5
Phenomonon, I liked the fact that you did a bar by bar breakdown, but I felt that you did so using generic terms and often didn't use specific examples from the battler's verses. You often said things like "Your next bar (shits tight/bitch light) was filler imo cuz there was nothing to it and you weren't really going anywhere with it" or the set-up wasn't relevant to the punch, but you could have gone further to show how. Nothing was innaccurate about the things you pointed out, but I think what benefits most battlers is not just if you point out what's wrong with their verse but when you also let them know how they can improve. Student pretty much did a bar by bar follow through of each verse as well, but he went further by showing examples from the battlers' own lines to further explain what he was saying. He even went so far as to offer for one of them to inbox him if they would like to learn more...which I thought was great! I also felt Student's rating of the battle was more accurate. You both did a great job, and had this not been a voting battle, I wouldn't have any critiques, but from reviewing both votes and expos, I felt Student's approach was more robust.

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