How do you know the universe is real? - Lets Beef

**Babylon** · #1 05-21-2014, 05:36 PM

How do you know that the universe is real, and not just a grand illusion perpetuated by an unseen force? How do you know that you do not simply live in a program created by another civilization? What if the civilization who created the supercomputer that holds the program that you live your life in were also created by another just like it, and only created the secondary supercomputer you currently survive in because of what the first supercomputer's code told them to do, in a type of supercomputer regression?

**Babylon** · 05-21-2014, 05:36 PM

How do you know that the universe is real, and not just a grand illusion perpetuated by an unseen force? How do you know that you do not simply live in a program created by another civilization? What if the civilization who created the supercomputer that holds the program that you live your life in were also created by another just like it, and only created the secondary supercomputer you currently survive in because of what the first supercomputer's code told them to do, in a type of supercomputer regression?

#2 05-21-2014, 05:38 PM

All of the above would implicate that the universe is real though.

05-21-2014, 05:38 PM

All of the above would implicate that the universe is real though.

**Babylon** · #3 05-21-2014, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave

All of the above would implicate that the universe is real though.

What if the universe is simply a delusion perpetuated by something else that is simply too complex to be seen as what it really is; an illusion.

But if that's the case, and you are knowingly stating that it is an illusion does it really remain an illusion? Take into account that something is only an illusion until you know how it works, then it becomes much more simple. So, if we're knowingly stating that the universe itself is actually an illusion is it actually an illusion anymore? And if that's the case, was it ever an illusion from the start, or simply a machine of much more simple parts created to seem much more complex?

**Babylon** · 05-21-2014, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave

All of the above would implicate that the universe is real though.

What if the universe is simply a delusion perpetuated by something else that is simply too complex to be seen as what it really is; an illusion.

But if that's the case, and you are knowingly stating that it is an illusion does it really remain an illusion? Take into account that something is only an illusion until you know how it works, then it becomes much more simple. So, if we're knowingly stating that the universe itself is actually an illusion is it actually an illusion anymore? And if that's the case, was it ever an illusion from the start, or simply a machine of much more simple parts created to seem much more complex?

#4 05-21-2014, 05:50 PM

An illusion is real in the eyes of a beholder. What we consider to be real would remain real to us.

To the dude in the swimming pool without the ladders, he genuinely feels like he's dying, little does he know I'm just playing The Sims.

05-21-2014, 05:50 PM

An illusion is real in the eyes of a beholder. What we consider to be real would remain real to us.

To the dude in the swimming pool without the ladders, he genuinely feels like he's dying, little does he know I'm just playing The Sims.

**V3numb** · #5 05-21-2014, 05:51 PM

cause you are in the universe talking bs about it

thread/

**V3numb** · 05-21-2014, 05:51 PM

cause you are in the universe talking bs about it

thread/

#6 05-21-2014, 06:09 PM

^Did you actually think that was "/thread".

Plenty of MM members think it sucks and talk about it on IMs. They're still in it.

05-21-2014, 06:09 PM

^Did you actually think that was "/thread".

Plenty of MM members think it sucks and talk about it on IMs. They're still in it.

Q · #7 05-21-2014, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Crysis

How do you know that the universe is real, and not just a grand illusion perpetuated by an unseen force? How do you know that you do not simply live in a program created by another civilization? What if the civilization who created the supercomputer that holds the program that you live your life in were also created by another just like it, and only created the secondary supercomputer you currently survive in because of what the first supercomputer's code told them to do, in a type of supercomputer regression?

The Matrix Much?

Q · 05-21-2014, 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crysis

How do you know that the universe is real, and not just a grand illusion perpetuated by an unseen force? How do you know that you do not simply live in a program created by another civilization? What if the civilization who created the supercomputer that holds the program that you live your life in were also created by another just like it, and only created the secondary supercomputer you currently survive in because of what the first supercomputer's code told them to do, in a type of supercomputer regression?

The Matrix Much?

**V3numb** · #8 05-21-2014, 06:23 PM

a crew and a universe are 2 diff things lmao

we are talking about the Existence of something that contains just about everything

while you're trying to swing shit about a crew based on if the members "opinions"

why you always have MM in your mouth tho?.. surprised you aint choke on the comming yet..

**V3numb** · 05-21-2014, 06:23 PM

a crew and a universe are 2 diff things lmao

we are talking about the Existence of something that contains just about everything

while you're trying to swing shit about a crew based on if the members "opinions"

why you always have MM in your mouth tho?.. surprised you aint choke on the comming yet..

**Babylon** · #9 05-21-2014, 06:25 PM

What if the matrix was only created to try and wake us up to the fact that we live in a simulation?

**Babylon** · 05-21-2014, 06:25 PM

What if the matrix was only created to try and wake us up to the fact that we live in a simulation?

#10 05-21-2014, 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crysis

What if the matrix was only created to try and wake us up to the fact that we live in a simulation?

What if there is no matrix?

05-21-2014, 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crysis

What if the matrix was only created to try and wake us up to the fact that we live in a simulation?

What if there is no matrix?

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