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Originally Posted by NOBLE
I had explained this to you more than once Nicholas, but you seem to be holding a petty grudge which surprises me. Your stint as Exclusive moderator failed miserably, and through it all, none was more supportive than me, starting from the fact that we had been considering getting rid of the Exclusive arena, but still I decided to give you a shot to see if we can turn it around. It's seriously bewildering that you formulate this picture of me being unsupportive when many of the things you mentioned you trying to implement (awards and other incentives) came about through our conversations with ME giving you a lot of those suggestions. I was unsupportive because I thought the award icons you came up with were ugly? I gave you a website to choose professional icons from. I even offered to help you design them myself. I gave you the option to come up with some on your own but said they should have a web 2.0 look. You didn't even know what that was yet insisted on designing. When I said I didn't like your designs, it wasn't to say you can't have awards to use as incentives. It was to say get some better icons (and I'm still willing to help) but you apparently weren't prepared to work together and take suggestions. As much as you felt the Exclusive League was your responsibility, it was still my responsibility as well, but you seem to have failed to realize that and think I shouldn't have any input once delegating you as mod. The last straw came when you threw a tournament and EVERYBODY no showed. At that point, other staff members started to notice and a staff discussion started about the tourney and the Exclusive PPV in general. You wanted to be a part of the conversation which you couldn't have been without us making you a full staff member. I tried my best to accommodate you by letting you know what's going on and how people see the situation and also relaying your viewpoints within the staff conversation itself. Once again, you weren't content with the way I tried to include you in the conversation because it wasn't having access to the thread itself which you had wanted. Bottom line is I think you have some things to learn when it comes to working with people and understanding when your responsibilities are shared and how to handle the people who share your responsibilities having a different approach. Someone else would not have been deterred by the things which seem to have deterred you (silly icons) and we would have worked much longer and they would have advanced much further with them eventually gaining all the things they asked for to begin with. None of that makes a difference now though. Carry on.
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I'm not holding a grudge in the slightest, this isn't personal this is me putting out the facts. I would of probably kept quiet about this if I was still bothered about striving forwards with this site as I did when I left without saying a word. How were you supportive? You VETO'd everything I put forwards. I didn't fail miserably, I wasn't allowed out of the starting blocks before I was shot down by yourself and some other moderators that had contributed nothing of note in years. The fact that you're claiming credit for the awards idea is a flat lie. If it was your idea or you thought it had merit (at the time you told me there was nothing wrong with the awards system as it is) then why have you done nothing with the awards since I left? By designing the awards I was doing your job anyway! I was the exclusive moderator not an administrator or site designer. If you didn't like the awards but liked the idea you should of done them yourself. I was doing you a favour.
Yes, as the exclusive moderator I wanted to be involved in the discussion about the future of the section I was running. I'm sorry that came as a shock to you, I know there is a culture of not giving a shit among the staff and I didn't follow those traditions laid before me.
The bottom line is not my inability to work with other people. I do that as a career. The bottom line is the staff are not motivated to pursue change. Since I've left one thing has changed.... you've changed the skin. And guess what? That's probably the biggest change that's came to this site in years. Go figure. So when Letsbeef isn't attracting a new audience how can we as users be surprised? If we want progress on this site then people need to be hired. Motivated financially.
NOBLE your hypocrisy in saying I failed as an Exclusive Moderator is bewildering. Here's one simple question. What have you done in the time since I left?
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Originally Posted by Indianapolis Jones
It's all starting to make sense now.
God bless you.
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This isn't to take shots at the guy. Merely for clarity. But I remember getting into a stupid back and forth with Nic when I was mod because I mentioned something he did wrong (I think it was regarding how he handled extensions and no shows, I can't remember the exact ins and outs) and he got on the defensive about it, so what you're saying is no surprise to me. And it turned out I was right to pull him over.
I'm not saying it's all your fault Nic but Looking back at it you need to take a good portion of the blame for the whole breakdown.
Helping out isn't the site about glory hunting and being over bearing. You got to give and take and not take everything negative as personal. I.E your designs not being up to snuff.
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I have no idea who you are. If you let me know I can address your points. My helping this site was never for glory hunting. The fact you have no idea of what I'd been working on illustrates that perfectly.
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Originally Posted by Punk
These threads get made every month. Nothing happens... accept our fate yall cause this might be the end.
It's obvious LB don't know what's "Best For The Site" so why keep trying to help a dead man breathe?
Music wise, We play some of the most questionable shit possible.. When your entire chatbox complains about what's being played, It's bout time ya change the shit up don't ya think? Stop playing the shit that YOU like" That was a @ Pugz shot. Suck my ass bitch
Battle wise, Our site is just lazy. Niggas complain about battle twice a month but they want the site active? Lmfao Stfu. I remember when dudes use to write like 1-2 battles a day I mean of course we all have real lives but when your on LB ALL day and doing fuck all, that real life shit flys out the window.
Staff wise, That shit is just all kinds of fucked up. You got niggas with mod spots that ain't logged in since damn there last year. A member might go to him asking for help, he don't answer, what now? they dippin.
And lastly, How soft niggas is... I got banned for "trolling" LOL Trolling my nigga.. NOBODY on the site complained about me posting except for 1 person.. Hella people asked me why I got banned.. I told them.. They damn there left the site based off that alone. Rohaan got banned for telling someone he'd fuck they children lol I fucks with @ UhMAZING but being banned for saying shit like that on the internet is just ridiculous. Let's ban all the active members why don't we..
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I went back and read your last thread before you left as soon as I returned. Typical Letsbeef.