Dope spar, guys. I'll be back with a vote.

This was a banger. I thought both did very well with the scheme, both were creative and personal. Hard to explain why i went how i went but after reading both twice i felt like i had a winner. Best battle ive read in a minute. 1/

Scheme: BAKING WITH THE STATIC

Imma be real. I was actually leaning Dave at the opening of Subs verse. But in a few more lines he started really laying it down fv.

Thay goddamn spongebob line fucking killed ms.

Nice battle here, gents. Both had some good concepts that they delivered nicely. Close one to call, leaning towards one more for the personals that were used. Great battle, lads. Good use of the scheme. 9’s all round.  Fairs in, I’m out. 

Very Dope batlle here...readability and structurally consistent throughout...top-notch material from both, good fluidity...lots of quotables and humorous personals.

Dave: 6-7 multi syllable count...7s were well hidden and didn't seem to lower the intensity of your punches/setups...I.e 'AWAKENING THE KRAKEN'...pretty good internal rhyming as well, some a bit slanted but work very well in your builds.

Sub: Consistent 6 multi count...very well arranged and structured, although there was repetition in a couple of bars...i.e 'TRAGIC'...worth mentioning in a battle as close as this.

Dave: really good setups, although conceptually...some punches were a bit dated... 'hammock' and a few others, but very well executed and impactful...I also felt as if your opener could have been much stronger. The personals that you had injected into your verse we're pretty humorous.

He claims the PLACE THAT HE INHABITS and was RAISED IN IS THE BADDEST! Even Greta would CHANGE HER WAY OF STANDING on the CARELESS WASTE OF PLASTIC that WASTES AWAY THE PLANET all because you're 'bad environment' is so BASELESS, FAKE AND FACTLESS!

*this was impressive, I like your arrangement in this bar...very good.

It was a rough time and you couldn't SAY IT WAS TRAUMATIC soon the RIPPING HE RECEIVED will have him SWINGING FROM A TREE and it aint LAYING IN A HAMMOCK! Then he tried to fight the mods, it was LAME AND IT WAS TRAGIC couldn't handle the staff like he aint CAPABLE OF MAGIC! They say your flips are tired like a FADED ACROBATIC and you couldn't take their breath if you were RACING AN ASTHMATIC!

*Another impressive string/build

Sub: I felt that your setups/builds and punches were slightly better and creative...kept your syllable count in order, made for a more consistent ready. The beginning of your verse started off a bit sluggish, but as it continued you manage to create a lot of momentum.

EtH got that 'wasteful flow' like WAVES AGAINST THE PLASTIC yet dreams he left a legacy RAVING WITH FANATICS but the only reason you ever 'feel a sole behind you' is cuz ya were MADE TA GET YA ASS KICKED!!

*Very creative and good setups...humorous

I'll make 'David a star' when I 'cross him up' like he's masqueRADING A STIGMATIC! And I know your approach, 'taking desparate maneuvers', never CHANGING UP YA TACTICS or BREAKING A BAD HABIT, I mean, we all expect you to come in here, misSTATING WHAT THE FACTS IS but just like your DATING IT IS TRAGIC how if them 'personals ever connect' you're on Craigslist TAKING UP SOME AD LIST!!

*This was very impressive...multis lined up, setups were great and the punchline was concealed nicely.

And don't get me started on that top 100 list that RATING SHIT IS TRAGIC, said you were ranked 15 so you should consider reTAKING MATHEMATICS, cuz you don't 'factor in, by any means' unless we're calcuLATING UP THE AVERAGE!

*good setup here

Overall: As stated before, pretty dope battle...many quotables from both, highs and lows from both...I have Sub winning this...but really good showing from both, considering a scheme battle as well written as these aren't a simple task at all.

Fairs in gentlemen 👍

Both were definitely good. I’d seriously get tired of a scheme after like bar #6 idk how y’all do it. Highlight bars that I enjoyed were the Italic concept, the mathematics, Baker Street personal. Came down to the more polished verse for me. Sub, I feel like the way you jump into the next bar after one kindve hurt here where Eth seemed more structured with some form of reference from the previous bar that helps the next while sticking with the scheme (if that makes sense). For example; the Bakerstreet angle. Instead of it ending at the first bar, it referenced inside of the next bar. Eth your wording was a shy bit off and both of you broke your schemes a few times haha..Anyways, I’m just 1 basic vote haha this will most likely end in the winner whoever that will be having around 50% of the votes. Good battle kids

wow great job both to rhyme this multi it mustve taken a long time, i dont think ive voted for any you before but im imoressed.by this battle. i think one had better delivery but one had better coheranc y. on e had better metaphors but one stood out a bit more on the punches and thats where my vote goes. nice battle fv is in.

Both came with it so if have to give the w to sub. He had some rebuttals in his verse. Loser did great but sub did better. His flow was better.

God fucking damn. I almost don't want to vote on this because I know there's some bad blood between me and both of these competitors, but I can't let this one pass me by.

I'm going to score this battle bar-by-bar. So, 0 = meh bar, +1 or more = good/better bar, -1 or less = bad/worse bar. Let's get started.

Dave.

He came up in BSI and the HAZING WAS EMPHATIC, claim they're making him amazing every DAY AND THEY WERE LAUGHING! Nick got the guys to make him BREAK AS YOU'D IMAGINE now he's only called Sub cause they were CHAINING HIM AND SLAPPING!

- The third multi is slightly off and I'd bet money that the Sub/sexual submissive idea has been used before. But this was an alright bar. My other complaint about it is that it tries to pass itself off as a 'personal' when really it's just mentioning people and things that have some connection to Subreal, but don't factor into the concept itself. Still, +1.

So when I say Nick mentor his ass I don't mean SHAPING HIM IN BATTLING, it's cause BAKERS IN THEIR MASS WAS fucking RAPING HIM WAS PASSION (Nick' men tore his ass)!

- Now the personal aspect pays off. I have to reach a fair bit to make the rhyming and wordplay here work, but it's not *bad* per se. I still don't think it hits very hard. 0.

It was a rough time and you couldn't SAY IT WAS TRAUMATIC soon the RIPPING HE RECEIVED will have him SWINGING FROM A TREE and it aint LAYING IN A HAMMOCK!

- Nice use of an internal multi coupled with a clever little punch. +1.

Then he tried to fight the mods, it was LAME AND IT WAS TRAGIC couldn't handle the staff like he aint CAPABLE OF MAGIC!

- Another really clever little punch. +1.

They say your flips are tired like a FADED ACROBATIC and you couldn't take their breath if you were RACING AN ASTHMATIC!

- This is kind of clever but I also feel that it's forced. When was the last time you heard of an asthmatic racer? The concept isn't bad but it's not good either. 0.

So Sub don't front, I know your GAME AND KNOW YOUR TACTICS you're like "Now the time's mine I'll go for DAVE WHEN HE'S INACTIVE"! That little stories good but you aint CAME IN WITH A CLASSIC cause how EASILY HE'S DUMPED ON that EVEN WITH THAT SUB' PLOT he aint MAKING THIS DRAMATIC!

- Quasi-personal, nice internal multi, fluid rhyming throughout, builds up a nice narrative leading into an okay punch. This really deserves a +1 just in terms of quality, but I'll give it more to compensate for the amount of space it took up. +2.

It's so predictable man cause you're BLATANT WITH THE RAPPING so transparent in the box like it's what DAVID BLAIN WAS TRAPPED IN!

- Damn, you're coming with solid shortbars out your ass aren't you? I wish I'd thought of this myself lmfao. +1.

He rocks that tag title like SHADY WAS IN FASHION, don't act like aint know Row had PAID TO MAKE IT HAPPEN! I know that if we asked he would CLAIM IT'S DEMOCRATIC but we both know the votes were Rows to sell like a TABLE THAT WAS CRAFTED for a DATABASE OF FAGGOTS (Rows to cell)!

- HAHAHAHAHA this bar made my day and the entire 32. I don't remember the actual historical facts about the Row/Subreal tag team victory, but cheating definitely sounds like something Row's little faggot ass WOULD do regardless. The rhyming here comes off as a little bit forced to me, although that could just be due to accent differences. The narrative is golden, and then the Rows to cell punch is clever and hits REALLY FUCKING HARD. +3.

It's a shame, his CLAIM TO FAME'S IN ASHES but you should've seen Row'd get you in trouble like you was PLAYING IN THE TRAFFIC!

- An attempt at another solid shortbar, but it doesn't hit as hard as stuff like "capable of magic" or "David Blaine was trapped in." Row'd/road isn't a hard concept to think of and this bar didn't put a memorable spin on it. 0.

Sub sees something he likes? He's THINKING "MAN I NEED THAT" will he TAKE IT WITHOUT ASKING? Nah if he's ever STICKING WITH A SKI MASK it's vaCATIONING IN ASPEN!

- I felt the internal multi here disrupted the flow/reading experience, and ski mask / skiing is far from a difficult concept to come up with. This was probably the worst bar in your 32. 0.

He claims the PLACE THAT HE INHABITS and was RAISED IN IS THE BADDEST! Even Greta would CHANGE HER WAY OF STANDING on the CARELESS WASTE OF PLASTIC that WASTES AWAY THE PLANET all because you're 'bad environment' is so BASELESS, FAKE AND FACTLESS!

- Ehhhhhh, I'm not feeling it that much. This one tries to tell a story and then exploit it for a clever payoff, but the impact is a lot lower than you probably thought it would be. Also, the rhyming is stretched to all Hell in my accent. +1.

He'll trip on this loss like I'm LACING HIM WITH ACID cause you couldnt have won kid with ASIAN PARENT PLANNING or ya chick's BABYMAKER'S BARON!

- No idea what that last part is supposed to mean, but won/one = one child policy isn't very clever. 0.

When this battles done he's gone be ACHING FOR AN ASPIRIN cause you'll see these limbs attack a Sub without AWAKENING THE KRAKEN!

- The wording here is kind of forced since it's a person that will be doing the attacking WITH limbs, not the limbs themselves, but obviously I get what you're going for here and it does make sense. I'm sure people have used Sub/submarine bars before, but the Kraken angle was nice. +1.

Was a funny dude once now it's HATRED AND IT'S MALICE, I have to say it's just a SHAME AS KID THE FACT IS you're the DC of LB; gained your STATUS WITH THE BATS SHIT!

- Really?... Of all the bars you could have put at the end, you chose this? Nah, this was weak. 0.

Total score: 11

Subreal

I'mma 'run rings around' you without SHAPIN UP A GASKET, you shoulda listened when they said 'to save yourself' like MATING WITH THE CATHOLICS, cuz those shit lines only got you 'moving in one direction' without BANGING WITH A RATCHET or joining the band MADE UP OF THE FAGGOTS!!!

- Nothing here was particularly great by itself, but it still made for a good opener by virtue of being a conglomeration of okay punches. Individually, these punches would be 0 or maybe 1, but I'll give this more due to density and amount of text taken up. +2.

EtH got that 'wasteful flow' like WAVES AGAINST THE PLASTIC yet dreams he left a legacy RAVING WITH FANATICS but the only reason you ever 'feel a sole behind you' is cuz ya were MADE TA GET YA ASS KICKED!!!

- Sole/soul is a pathetically basic wordplay but there was enough setup here to justify it. Wasteful flow like waves against the plastic is honestly forced though, nobody would ever say that in real life. +1.

But no worries, I'll make sure your dreams painSTAKINGLY ESTLABISHED, I'll make 'David a star' when I 'cross him up' like he's masqueRADING A STIGMATIC!

- Most people aren't going to get this bar. Frankly, I'm not sure that I completely do. But I do know what the stigmata are so I at least get the gist of the punch. I do suspect that the wording here is totally forced but I can almost ignore it because of how much I like the concept. +1.

And I know your approach, 'taking desparate maneuvers', never CHANGING UP YA TACTICS or BREAKING A BAD HABIT, I mean, we all expect you to come in here, misSTATING WHAT THE FACTS IS but just like your DATING IT IS TRAGIC how if them 'personals ever connect' you're on Craigslist TAKING UP SOME AD LIST!!!

- Did Craigslist bring back the adult section? Anyway, this punch was really worthy of a 0 but I'll give it a 1 to compensate for the amount of space it takes up and because the narrative setup was okay. +1.

And don't get me started on that top 100 list that RATING SHIT IS TRAGIC, said you were ranked 15 so you should consider reTAKING MATHEMATICS, cuz you don't 'factor in, by any means' unless we're calcuLATING UP THE AVERAGE!

- I get what you're going for here but the punch doesn't fully make sense. What exactly does factoring have to do with calculating the mean? Factors didn't have anything to do with any formula for calculating the mean that I ever learned. But this is still barely passable, just not as good as it maybe could have been. 0.

That Top 15 got you chasing a 'pipe dream' like you're porTRAYING YOU'RE AN ADDICT but atleast you recognize you'll always be a 'space below the top' without HANGING IN AN ATTIC!!!

- Not much commentary about this one. Solid shortbar. +1.

Even still, that's too optimistic your WEIGHTING IS TRAUMATIC, you'll always be 'hanging below the waste' and that's no reference to the DRAPING OF YA JACKET, cuz your shit and it's so 'grounded in fact,' that you can't 'take charge' of what I'm SAYING WITH THE STATIC!!!

- The quoting here got superfluous. I advise people against putting something in quote marks unless it directly pertains to the punchline. In this case, you put 'grounded in fact' in quotes but really only 'grounded' pertained to the static electricity concept. That aside, the hanging below the waste setup-punch was strong and then the static punch was good too. +2.

I mean, your lines so stretched they get misTAKEN FOR ELASTIC, while that accent got you conVEYING YOU'RE A FAGGOT who couldn't 'form a proper slant' going through ur verse MAKING IT ITALIC or PLAYING WITH A HATCHET!!!

- I like this bar up until the very end. Slant/italic is great but what does a hatchet have to do with this? This could have been done so much better. +1.

You want this win you'll have to 'go thru hoops' like ya LACING UP A RACKET cuz I've seen ya writs and you aint even close to STRAYIN TA MY BRACKET so one of your 'boxes ever catch fire' you must be SCRAPING WITH A MATCH STICK!

- Nothing much to say about this. All-around solid medium-length bar. +1.

P.S. I had ya girl tellin me she's tired of masturBATIN WITH A GLASS DICK, so I had her twitching so much she could be misTAKEN FOR A SPASTIC so when she call late sayin she's seeing 'cum mute her issues', she ain't WAITING IN SOME TRAFFIC!!

- This gains a lot of (unintentional?) comedy points because spastic is an offensive slur in the UK lmfao. The wordplay is a major reach, though, both phonetically (to some extent) and in terms of how natural it sounds (who would ever say "cum is muting my issues" in real life?). The setup, especially the solid and relevant rhyming, almost makes up for it, but in the end it doesn't. 0.

You dick ride Daddio who's so outDATED IT IS CLASSIC u got no knowledge of skill from 'hanging around a square' that's FADED INTO BLACKNESS, U been 'living beneath a rock', next time someone says is this EtH? We'll hear him SAYING THIS IS PATRICK!

- Rock/Patrick... nah bro. I almost gave this a 0 because that concept is so played, but the stuff before it was just good enough to change my mind. +1.

Total score: 11

Okay so now it turns out that I wrote that entire bar-by-bar expo and ended up with a tie lmfao. I swear to God this was all an honest rating that developed as I wrote it and there was no intention from the outset to make it a tie lmfao... So I have to pick a winner somehow. I felt that Dave had the best bar of the battle by a long shot (Rows to cell) and also kept me more entertained with the overall structure of his verse. Both had their ups and downs in all aspects, but I have to pick a winner, so here we are. Thanks to both of you for the read. Fair's in.

Damn, dudes. My bad on not getting to this. Really enjoyed this battle. LB could use a few of these caliber more often.  Going to drop what would have been my vote expo, because I want to lol take it or leave it.

Sub- 

Your best bar. imo was "...cuz those shit lines only got you 'moving in one direction' without BANGING WITH A RATCHET or joining the band MADE UP OF THE FAGGOTS!!!..."

Very dope punch to start out, man. Cool and creative, But then you followed up with this...

"...EtH got that 'wasteful flow' like WAVES AGAINST THE PLASTIC yet dreams he left a legacy RAVING WITH FANATICS but the only reason you ever 'feel a sole behind you' is cuz ya were MADE TA GET YA ASS KICKED!!!.." 

Not a bad punch overall, just lacked a good flip, ya know?

This bar wasn't as creative as the one before. Here you used both basic wordplay and uncreative references to make it work. Such as using the idiom "flow" as a reference to waves, and "sole" as a reference to "soul" lol that is like 07 type bars, fam. Lol not ragging on you at all, it is funny though. All in all what helped you out the most is that your flow/execution was pretty fucking smooth. Followed the scheme to a T and on a heavyweight level, I might add. Feel the only real downfall to what you presented, was some of the end multies were 2 words (ex. ASS KICKED) combined to make it fit the scheme. Not saying they didnt rhyme , just saying it wasnt roll off the tounge smooth.That said, nice verse man. Would've rated this an 8 for carrying a scheme for 32 lines, which isn't an easy task at all.

EtH... Dude, you had some really good/fresh ideas, and your flow/execution was on point throughout the whole 32. Wasnt expecting this kind of stuff from you, tbh. Now I see why you lead elevation crews in the past, and gave advice to many of our best battlers to date. Hmmm.... I'm not sure I can nit pick this verse much, if I'm honest. Very top tier stuff. I would have thought Lockhart wrote this, if I knew you weren't Dave. Best bar from you imo was, "...Then he tried to fight the mods, it was LAME AND IT WAS TRAGIC couldn't handle the staff like he aint CAPABLE OF MAGIC!..."

Solid bar, setup was clear, and the punch it self was funny, creative, and personal. Your punches were snappy, to the point, and maintained this kind of energy throughout. Imo you displayed a very dope verse and it flowed like butter which really helped your execution. Felt you were more consistently creative from top to bottom, conceptually,  as well.  Opening set of lines weren't the greatest I've ever seen, but what made this dope was the ending line 

''...So when I say Nick mentor his ass I don't mean SHAPING HIM IN BATTLING, it's cause BAKERS IN THEIR MASS WAS fucking RAPING HIM WAS PASSION (Nick' men tore his ass)!..."

The one thing I will say is that battling is 3 syllables,  batt-l-ing and the way you have it worded sounds like you're trying to pronounce it batt-ling, which could be an accent thing? Not sure. You really out matched Sub with the mid portion of your verse, whereas his had a few played ideas and the rhyming not being as fluent as yours. Not to mentioned you had more stamina there as well. Hit after hit. Then  3/4 of the way through this bar came along lol ..."He claims the PLACE THAT HE INHABITS and was RAISED IN IS THE BADDEST! Even Greta would CHANGE HER WAY OF STANDING on the CARELESS WASTE OF PLASTIC that WASTES AWAY THE PLANET all because you're 'bad environment' is so BASELESS, FAKE AND FACTLESS!.. "

Minus the you're/your spelling error this was fantastic, except the whole "CARELESS WASTE" rhyming with "WASTE AWAY". You used the same word twice in the same bar, in a scheme battle, but that is excusable, because they seem to have two different meanings. Complex but not too complex. In all honesty, I think Sub had more jabs leading to his punches, and that you had what most would consider filler in yours. By that I mean going 2 lines without a jab or mini punch. But I dont feel like it hindered you here. That is your style and it works in 32's because its half a book of bars. The story telling experience that you went for, made for an interesting read with all the personals tied in to each bar. really added an element that separated you from sub here. You had some slants in the rhyming but I think overall you definitely were more aggressive and had more "oh shit!" moments than Subreal. Closed nicely with the ~BATS~/DC punch. Would've rated this verse a 9 and voted for you, for not only the schemework, but for being consistantly more creative, on a professional level.

Was checking in to vote and this battle had already closed, I was like noooooo in slowmo n shit. This was definitely a clash of two vets, both went ham. Congrats on the win, Dave. Subreal you put up a hell of a fight, too. 

Peace