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Battle started: June 20th 2019 at 01:01
Challenger joined: December 31st 1969 at 19:00


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PapaLock
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I gotta ask you, guts, why did you use a bar meant for Seul here against CakedOut? 

Anyway, I had guts still taking this because CakedOut's flaws in his verse were just too bad to really justify voting for. Ideas, yo/audios(adios) is a super reach in terms of wordplay and just wasn't worth even trying to use, imo. Audios/adios is played out wordplay at this point anyway. Other than that the opener was a nameflip that was gonna be too obvious to work in the first place and there were other instances of forced wordplay that either didn't make sense (man ah fest? How does one fest? What even is a fest in this context?), reached too far to try to connect concepts together (dick take/dictate doesn't work phonetically), or were played out (end mate/inmate is too played). The law of attraction line was easily your best one, but one good line out of a possible 8 is a hard sell to vote for. I've seen you write 100x better than this, bro.

guts, the McMartin trial bar was really too obscure to work how you wanted it to, imo. Decent idea but nothing outstanding. At least it was executed fairly well. Feel like you reached with the Supreme logo bar (the logo isn't a red stain, it's a red block with Supreme in the middle). Also, inner multis didn't add much to the bar. If you wanna try to use inner multis, it would be wise to use the final inner multi to help setup your punchline. Just a tip for future battles. Last main multi you had in that bar was kinda forced, too. I know you can word multis properly cause you did so in your last bar, so this was a careless mistake on your part. And like I said before, I didn't like how the closer was meant for Seul, but you used it for Caked, but aside from that, I feel it was far too obscure of a reference for the normal LB member to get (I had to Google it myself cause I didn't know what you were going at). Overall, it's a fairly decent bar and an ok closer, but this would've probably been better in like a diss cypher or something.

That's my $0.02. Fair is in.

Posted on: 2019-06-22 18:31:29 Private Message PapaLock

 
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NeighborHood Bully

EOA

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Posted on: 2019-06-20 11:19:24 Private Message NeighborHood Bully

KG The Prince

EoA

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Posted on: 2019-06-20 18:41:10 Private Message KG The Prince

OGxCERBERUZ
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Close battle fellas I thought one was a bit more better here with the better read and more smoother bars close shit tho my fair is always tossed

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Posted on: 2019-06-20 19:48:13 Private Message OGxCERBERUZ

Shodan
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I'll break down both verses separately before talking about why I voted the way I did.

CakedOut, the first part of your opener simply sucked. I'm sorry to say it, but didn't have the g u t s is too obvious to ever work. The rhyming throughout this first bar was nice, but then you said he's a faggot who takes dick? That's so simple that it hurts. The next bar, Law of Attraction, was alright. The manifest / man ah fest wordplay worked phonetically, but it didn't work both ways grammatically (cause the manifest so the rods that I'm packing - not valid grammatically) and was simply weird (why would you call your opponent a fest?). I get what you mean by "connect with your higher self," or at least I think I do, but I don't think it's a natural way of phrasing what it means. So we've gone from really simple to forced. Then you had the closer, which used the audios / adios wordplay, which has been used before (and as part of more complex concepts, to boot), and is just as bad as it was then (very - the two words don't even sound alike; if you've taken Spanish class, you should know this). Honestly, there's not much good I can say about this verse, other than the multi sets flowed nicely.

guts, I'll ignore the typo in your opener and pay attention to the decent concept. Not a really good concept in my opinion, and just because something was longer doesn't necessarily mean that it had extensions (I'm not going to bother reading the whole Wikipedia article to find out), but the punch makes enough sense. The next bar I didn't like so much: the internal multis were off, and more importantly, I don't think it's right to refer to the Supreme logo as a "red stain." It's primarly red, for sure, but is it really a stain? Plus, SUPREME SHIRTS AND THE LOGO - that's far from the most natural multi set. The last bar was clever, I'll give you that much, but I feel confident in saying that NOBODY in LetsBeef would understand it without the expo, and that alone is enough to make it bad.

Usually, after I'm done ripping into both verses, I end the rant with some disclaimer like "I actually enjoyed this battle, but was just pointing out the negatives to help both improve." In this case, though, the whole battle was negatively charged, and reading it didn't improve my day. I hope that y'all can at least take some of what I said to heart. Anyway, I have guts winning because I liked his punches a little bit more. Fair's in.

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Posted on: 2019-06-20 20:27:18 Private Message Shodan

GOOD GRIEF
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CakedOut: I like the first bar but it feels played. you gotta be careful with name flips man. I haven't even read that many guts battles but I can already tell that its most likely been used. Think of it like this: the very first bar you come up with AUTOMATICALLY when name flipping someone's name is most likely played. The second bar is seems empy. Whats the idea there? "Dick-Take/Dictate"? That wordplay doesn't work at all fam. nothing in your setup says anything otherwise so the bar didn't really hit in any way. Third bar: in your setup you called him a "fest". lol I get the wordplay but wtf is a fest? now the punchline wording was shaky. when making a line always consider how it works both as a diss and a metaphor. when you say "My gun is going to connect you to your higher self" it doesn't neccessarily sound like a threat. you could be implying sending him to heaven but even that doesn't exactly work either. Inmate bar was simple but solid. The closer: the wp is a bit played. that being said your execution of it wasn't great. an example of an actual setup to the audios/adios wordplay would be: "Audios Are Depressing" like SAD GOODBYES IN SPANISH!! That was a horrible punchline overall but there was an actual SETUP and punchline. Setups and wording are the 2 things you should really delve into. You have some ideas and a grasp of metaphor but your punchlines will hold 0 weight if they aren't setup properly. Good shit.

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Posted on: 2019-06-20 20:48:47 Private Message GOOD GRIEF

GOOD GRIEF
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Guts: decent start. Simple but solid. Second bar... oooh you know you could've worded the execution better. To sum it up i'll say this, the first part of your bar jumped from talking about killing him, to talking about his rhymes, then back to killing him. And the way you worded it didn't make the punch hit as hard. If you simply said: cause Blood to spill... have a "Red Marks In the Middle Of His Clothes" like the SUPREME LOGO!! there. simple. you could also start off the bar before your first multi to setup the idea of killing him and blood spilling. the way you set up your bar didn't put enough emphasis on the idea of "We're going to make him bleed". yeah you tried to imply it but in setting up a bar try to either be direct as possible or a bit smoother when setting up your concepts. The ending bar: oooh you feels a bit stretched but the punch is there. ok concept. This an example of a bar that needs more space to breath but you gave it just enough room to hit.

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Posted on: 2019-06-20 21:02:50 Private Message GOOD GRIEF

-RED-BARON-

Winner had an easier read here. Also the first two lines were dope I thought with the Mcmartint trial and the supreme shirts. Last line kinda stretched but it was cool too. Fairs in. 

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Posted on: 2019-06-20 21:03:14 Private Message -RED-BARON-

GOOD GRIEF
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Overall decent battle. My winner showed more prowess in execution of ideas which is what edged it out for me. both keep grinding and I hope my expo was helpful.

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Posted on: 2019-06-20 21:04:14 Private Message GOOD GRIEF

-RED-BARON-

That’s only because I’ve never seen that book though. But if I had it’d be a super dope line and I voted as if I had. 

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Posted on: 2019-06-20 21:05:25 Private Message -RED-BARON-

Edgeworth
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PYW Season 3 - Week 1 

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Posted on: 2019-06-21 00:43:10 Private Message Edgeworth

Edgeworth
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Some cool punches on both ends. Some duds. Slightly better flow from g u ts i thought. A few execution slip ups from both but Cake's stood out like a sore thumb and cost him the battle. Man ah fest wp (what is a fest?), and the main offender audios/adios/ideas yo were just too poor to look past. I appreciate you drpping the verse last minute and not no-showing however, Caked. But, Guts takes this one. Fairs in fellas. 

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Posted on: 2019-06-21 00:51:58 Private Message Edgeworth

Kold Krhymez
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CakedOut your opener was lacklustre for real had no impact whatsoever. The only real line i liked from you was your 'law of attraction line' which was the botb. Your closer was ok but could have been executed better. Guts had a solid opener and i like the supreme logo line all in all u delivered more consistently across the spectrum the fair is certi and in.

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Posted on: 2019-06-21 05:28:10 Private Message Kold Krhymez

Joe MuGGz
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Rough read tbh. My winner had better flow but I kno better can come from him. My loser lost me a few times. 

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Posted on: 2019-06-21 11:00:44 Private Message Joe MuGGz

Saber
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Caked 

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Posted on: 2019-06-21 14:21:21 Private Message Saber

 

 
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