Ok gents. Really frustrating read here. One had questionable personal content and the other had poorly executed concepts. One edged SLIGHTLY imo. 1/

Was hoping for more venom here but not bad regardless. Been around long enough to recognize the lack of factual basis behind some of Rai's linees without a "sway" comment or thread. The high.edu bit was ok but took a long time to get to. The closer was an alright set but more of a shot at Row than Subreal. Sub a bit rusty still.He had a higher punch count. Some worn concepts in there...deodorant, puzzle. Liked the boom box bar best of that verse. Sub was punching more consistently with more concise setups. Rai was more creative in spots and more complex. Gotta lean Subreal here because of the false LB history and higher punch count.

The winner for me was clear. Subreal, you were picking up steam towards the end with the deodarant line and clown one but Rai came with the better flow and harder punchlines. Fairs in. GB

Rai gets it for me, Subs first bar has really iffy rhyming and nothing really wowd me. good battle

This was pretty close. All comes down to punches, and Rai came with more personals imo. Sub did nice with the punches, but they could have been used fror just about anyone, while Rai focused solely on his competition. Good stuff from both.

Expo: Chuck Taylor Converse All Stars

Sub Really Didn't Have Any Major Punching and Came Pretty Basic. The First Line Seemed Pointless, seeing how the Following Line Didn't Correlate at all. Just wasn't a Bomb Verse To me at All. Rai on the Other Hand Was Jazzy and witty and Very Clever with His 16! I'm Impressed with it.

Fair W to Rai

I felt Rai had the cleaner verse.. set ups and delivery was better..punches had more impact, Sub had a nice verse, liked the boom box line, sum parts was kinda choppy tho, good battle nonetheless 

Turnbull ACs won Illmania they didn't lose it, and I was in Murda Muzik when Illmania happened.

Str8

Decent read from both. I preferred Rai's verse overall without giving weight to the personals, some of which have been proven false. I just felt his metaphors generally worked better and his multies were more congruent. Other than that, this battle was fairly even when looking at other aspects. Fairness. 6-6

Was a close battle, due to all the bullshit surrounding this battle I am not gonna focus on the personals, and rather the bars themselves.

I think Rai came a bit stronger in terms of concepts, Sub came swinging, but I think the set-ups from Rai were just a bit better co-ordinated leading to bigger hits. Fairs in.

You've been punished

Absolute fire from both. My winner had a touch more swag, otherwise the content and the entire overall feel of both verses was on par with each other. Had to factor in every criteria imaginable to come up with a winner. in the end the swaggy'er post took the dubb for me.